It's good to have the person concerned in the (intelligent?)
conversation...he emailed me.

All ye anti-top-posters will have to read this in reverse....frankly, as
long as the reference thread is there, I simply read from bottom to top!


Deepa.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Srivatsa Krishna <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [silk] Srivatsa Krishna: Babu is not always a four-letter word
To: Deepa Mohan <[email protected]>


Thanks! I just saw an I complete post online and wanted to check what it was
about. That's all. Degree has nothing to do with work, except if posted in a
few technical posts. Thanks

Srivatsa Krishna,IAS

Sent from my IPad 2

On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:46 PM, Deepa Mohan <[email protected]> wrote:

Oh...no.

 Srivatsa, the point I was making was that in our country, this whole
knowing-English thing seems to be important...I have certainly watched Vivek
Kulkarni "getting things done", and so how could I subscribe to this view?
For any administration, especially the mammoth "business" of the
administration of the country's affairs... the Service has the name
"administrative" ....surely a degree from  the world's top business
administration school would be a major help.

Why do you feel that I, personally, have this view? I  don't think I do.

I was asking, actually, if there could be ways to improve the performance of
so many other IAS officers.....there is a reason why the image is so
tainted. I've had this conversation with Vivek, but he is far less
flamboyant (read, wanting to go public with his views) than you are, and the
conversation didn't really lead anywhere. When he started B2K, which later
became Brickwork, I also remember asking him why he was quitting the IAS,
when officers like him could actually work within the system to improve it.
He said something to the effect that his personal goals were different...a
valid enough answer!

I had another IAS officer friend, Srivatsa, I need not name him here; but it
was obvious that he wasn't a model of integrity.I have a friend in Chennai
who is in the Income Tax department...she is an honest person, but she is
able to tell me that most of her colleauges are not. Mohan, my husband, has
an MBA from IIM-A, and I know some of his classmates who are certainly not
honest, sad to say.

However, it's not even always a question of corruption...sometimes it's just
inefficiency, I find, a rooted mindset of "we can't". Can't change our
methods, can't change our delays..."this is how it's always been done" seems
to be the prevailing thinking.

It's not just the IAS...in every field, I find that often, the most
qualified people seem to leave for other shores, and it is left to the
mediocre and (in the words of one friend) "cannot-escapes" to do the job.
IIT, for example, often teaches (at minimal cost) skills to our youngsters
which they then promptly take abroad.

We have two surgeons in the family; both of them are now practising in the
US, and last week, when they bemoaned the state of facilities in India, we
had a raging debate on why they could not have come back with their acquired
qualifications and worked in India. It was only a debate, of course, because
I respect their personal decisions...so, actually, when I find people like
you or Vivek coming back, and working in the system, I am really happy to
see it happening. I respect Shiv Sastry for coming back after his FRCS and
working in Bangalore.

Well, if,  by any implication or imputation, I have offended you, I am
sorry....but I am hoping you are asking for a conversation, not expressing
offence. I sent across the video to the mailing list (from your response, do
I assume you belong to it too?) because I wanted others to see it. What I
was saying, in effect, was, how can we, or you who are working within the
system, change the less-than-effficient and less-than-honest culture? How
can we include the not-articulate-in-English section of the people into our
efforts?

The other point I was making was, it's only people who already agree with
the fact that there are also able and honest administrators, who see that
video...that's what I meant by "preaching to the converted".

If you have the time, could you tell me how your business school degree
influences/guides you in your work?

Sorry for the long-winded answer, but I felt your question merited a
detailed reply

Cheers, Deepa.



On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Srivatsa Krishna <<[email protected]>
[email protected]> wrote:

> And so is it a crime to be a Harvard MBA or one to be an IAS officer?
>
> Srivatsa Krishna,IAS
>
> Sent from my IPad 2
>

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