On Wednesday 10 Aug 2011 8:33:29 am Arjun Guha wrote:
>  I find this thread to be a thought-provoking one in which secularism and
> the freedom to practice multiple religions within a secular democracy have
> been discussed. Not clear what its relationship is to Swamy's article. Can
> secularism wipe out Islamic terror? The issue is a serious one.
> 

The relationship to Swamy's article is as follows. Swamy's article represents 
an extreme right wing viewpoint of a type that is almost never discussed on 
this list. It is easier to dismiss than discuss - just like society would 
rather dismiss the smell of someone's fart at a formal dinner than discuss it. 
Personal comfort levels are violated less by dismissal. 

There is another contradiction in that article that has an interesting, if 
roundabout connection with Silk list. That is the question of "assuming 
goodwill". It would be difficult for anyone reading that article to assume that 
there is much goodwill in there. On those grounds alone the article fails to 
qualify for discussion on here  :) IMO

In my view, given the two fundamental premises of this list - 'Intelligent 
Conversation" and "Assume goodwill" that article poses a challenge. Any 
intention of discussing that article on here would mean accepting that lack of 
goodwill is a fact of life and a political fact and it might be necessary, in 
the interest of "intelligent conversation"  to discuss viewpoints and articles 
in which lack of goodwill is prominent. That demands that any differences of 
opinion on this list would require assumption of the very goodwill that the 
article lacks. If someone supports Swamy's conclusions on this list, other 
listmembers  would have to assume goodwill. That sets up some interesting 
challenges! LOL. I found that idea really fascinating. :D I am honestly 
tickled by such dilemmas. 

Just my views. 

The diversion into a disucssion of secularism was mine. but the value, and my 
own learning, came from some great inputs from others. Intelligent 
conversation is still possible.

shiv

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