defenitely,

   1.  The gene pool
   2. Society


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Thaths <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Anish Mohammed
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Like with all things, its deviation from the norm. BTW there are
> benefits to
> > having psychopaths ;) as well... i suspect
>
> Benefits to what/whom? The individual? The gene pool? Society?
>
> S.
>
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Divya <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Top posting, apologies: apropos this thread, one of the books on my
> >> recommendations list is The Psychopath Test, by Jon Ronson, which is an
> >> account of Ronson's peripatetic attempts to apply the Hare test to an
> >> assortment of people from criminals to CEOs.
> >>
> >> Eminently readable stuff.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Divya
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >> On 29 Nov 2011, at 17:24, Jon Cox <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >  A nice summary of psychopathy:
> >> >
> >> >  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hon3AzMO6vs&feature=related
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> If true, this also means the astronomically expensive public bailouts
> >> >> will not
> >> >> solve the problem since many of the morally impaired individuals who
> >> >> caused
> >> >> this mess likely remain in positions of power. Worse, they may be the
> >> >> same
> >> >> people advising governments on how to resolve this crisis.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Of course the corporate bailouts won't help.
> >> >
> >> > Do we see any genuine signs of remorse?
> >> > No.
> >> >
> >> > Any meaningful steps toward confession or restitution-based atonement?
> >> >
> >> > None whatsoever.
> >> >
> >> > There are none on a personal level, nor are there any on the
> >> > corporate level -- nor will there be.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> This shark-like fixation on self-interest means that psychopaths
> often
> >> >> feel a
> >> >> clear detachment from other people, viewing them more as sheep to be
> >> >> preyed
> >> >> upon than fellow humans to relate to. For instance, psychopaths in
> >> >> prison
> >> >> often use group therapy sessions not as a healing process, but as an
> >> >> opportunity to learn how to simulate normal human emotions.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is actually a structural component of public corporate charters.
> >> > The official duty of their chief officers is to maximize profits
> >> > for shareholders, period.
> >> >
> >> > The classic screening test is the Hare Psychopathy Checklist Revised
> >> > (PCL-R) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_Psychopathy_Checklist
> >> >
> >> > A prototypical psychopath would receive a maximum score of 40,
> >> > while someone with absolutely no psychopathic traits or tendencies
> >> > would receive a score of zero. A score of 30 or above qualifies
> >> > a person for a diagnosis of psychopathy. People with no criminal
> >> > backgrounds normally score around 5.  Many non-psychopathic
> >> > criminal offenders score around 22.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >   Scoring:
> >> >             0  The item does not apply,
> >> >             1  The item applies somewhat
> >> >             2  The item fully applies.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >   Factor 1: Personality "Aggressive narcissism"
> >> >
> >> >       1      Glibness/superficial charm
> >> >       2      Grandiose sense of self-worth
> >> >       3      Pathological lying
> >> >       4      Cunning/manipulative
> >> >       5      Lack of remorse or guilt
> >> >       6      Shallow affect (genuine emotion is short-lived and
> >> > egocentric)
> >> >       7      Callousness; lack of empathy
> >> >       8      Failure to accept responsibility for own actions
> >> >
> >> >  Factor 2: Case history "Socially deviant lifestyle".
> >> >
> >> >       9      Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
> >> >      10      Parasitic lifestyle
> >> >      11      Poor behavioral control
> >> >      12      Lack of realistic long-term goals
> >> >      13      Impulsivity
> >> >      14      Irresponsibility
> >> >      15      Juvenile delinquency
> >> >      16      Early behavior problems
> >> >      17      Revocation of conditional release
> >> >
> >> >  Traits not correlated with either factor
> >> >
> >> >      18     Promiscuous sexual behavior
> >> >      19     Many short-term marital relationships
> >> >      20     Criminal versatility
> >> >      21     Acquired behavioural sociopathy/sociological conditioning
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
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