Hi Eugen,
> Looked at another way, if you submitted a paper "Yet another chosen prefix 
> 
> >attack on MD5" to Crypto/AsiaCrypt/Eurocrypt, do you think it'd get 
> >accepted?.  

> I fully understand this one could call this an "acceptance" bias...not only 
> ur name should sound right , u should also be in right group ( I am sure u 
> know what I mean ..) 
Regards
Anish
Anish Mohammed
Twitter: anishmohammed
http://uk.linkedin.com/in/anishmohammed

On 13 Jun 2012, at 10:11, Eugen Leitl <[email protected]> wrote:

> ----- Forwarded message from Peter Gutmann <[email protected]> -----
> 
> From: Peter Gutmann <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 17:26:39 +1200
> To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected],
>    [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [silk] Flame is Lame
> 
> Eugen Leitl <[email protected]> quotes:
> 
>> And suddenly, just like that, the discussion on whether Flame is lame or not
>> b&vanished.
> 
> Yeah, because cryptographacamy is magic.  The exploit may have used 0day and
> rootkits and ROP and stealth techniques and self-modifying code and who knows
> what else, but any five-year-old can do that.  However, if there's any
> cryptographi... cryptograma... magic involved then it had to have been done by
> sikrit gummint agencies.
> 
> I'm not saying it was or it wasn't, but I am a bit disturbed at the level of
> magical thinking that goes with anything involving crypto.  There have been
> some pretty sophisticated attacks on crypto keys in embedded devices for
> jailbreaking purposes that were done by enthusiastic amateurs, not even the
> likes of (to pick some random examples of crypto people who've done this
> before) David Wagner or Ed Felten or Markus Kuhn but just some random guys who
> decided to give it a go.
> 
> Looked at another way, if you submitted a paper "Yet another chosen prefix 
> attack on MD5" to Crypto/AsiaCrypt/Eurocrypt, do you think it'd get 
> accepted?.  
> I'm not trying to denigrate the achievement, just to add a little perspective.
> 
> Peter.
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> -- 
> Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org
> ______________________________________________________________
> ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org
> 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A  7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
> 

Reply via email to