----- Forwarded message from Fred Hapgood <[email protected]> ----- From: Fred Hapgood <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:36:46 -0500 To: Nanotechnology Study Group - open discussion <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NSG-d] Open-source self-repro industrial machine set X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - html Reply-To: Nanotechnology Study Group - open discussion <[email protected]>
The DIY piece is not what is interesting here. All these machines could be made on an assembly line. Modularity is after all a key part of the concept. The key thing here is the potential for radically lower construction costs. Anybody who has any kind of contact, direct or indirect, with construction is familiar with the intuition that the process is WAY more expensive than it needs to be, Somewhere down the road is a world in which the raw cost of building stuff is going to be a tenth of what it is today (or less) and that world will be a better one than ours. These guys claim to have reduced the tool cost (from what i can see, mostly by clever steak-and-potatoes engineering) by a factor of eight. Maybe they have, maybe they haven't, but nobody can tell me that there isn't room in the process for a cost reduction of at least that size. Something like this is absolutely going to happen and the moment feels right to me. ----- Original message ----- From: Dave Lindbergh <[email protected]> To: "Nanotechnology Study Group - open discussion" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NSG-d] Open-source self-repro industrial machine set Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:16:53 -0500 I had a quick look at the site. I don't think they're trying to do a set of hardware that can reproduce itself - that would be MUCH harder than what they're doing (but much more interesting). From what I saw, they're dependent on external inputs for metal, tires, electronics, etc., at the very minimum. As for what they are actually doing - they seem to think DIY will be "more efficient" and "less wasteful" than the status quo. Which I find very difficult to believe. --Dave On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Steve Witham <[email protected]> wrote: > These guys think their Global Village Construction Set-- 40 or 50 > machines for farming, house building, and reproducing the set of machines-- > can support a life with modern comforts. They have prototyped eight of > the forty. > > http://opensourceecology.org/**wiki-gvcs.php > <http://opensourceecology.org/wiki-gvcs.php> > > --Steve ______________________________**_________ Nanotechnology > Study Group NSG-d open discussion group > http://www.marshome.org/**mailman/listinfo/nsg-d > <http://www.marshome.org/mailman/listinfo/nsg-d> Send replies (no > attachments) to: [email protected] Questions for list > admin: NSG-d-owner___no-spam@**marshome.org<NSG-d-owner___no- > [email protected]> Archive: > http://MarsHome.org/mailman/**private/NSG-d > <http://MarsHome.org/mailman/private/NSG-d> Unsubscribe: NSG-d- > [email protected] Password or Options or Unsubscribe: > http://MarsHome.org/mailman/** options/NSG-d > <http://MarsHome.org/mailman/options/NSG-d> Hosted by CyberTeams.com > and Mars Foundation(tm), http://MarsHome.org > ** The following attachments were removed: multipart/alternative text/html _______________________________________ Nanotechnology Study Group NSG-d open discussion group http://www.marshome.org/mailman/listinfo/nsg-d Send replies (no attachments) to: [email protected] Questions for list admin: [email protected] Archive: http://MarsHome.org/mailman/private/NSG-d Unsubscribe: NSG-d- [email protected] Password or Options or Unsubscribe: http://MarsHome.org/mailman/options/NSG-d Hosted by CyberTeams.com and Mars Foundation(tm), http://MarsHome.org http://www.BostonScienceLectures.com http://www.pobox.com/~fhapgood _______________________________________ Nanotechnology Study Group NSG-d open discussion group http://www.marshome.org/mailman/listinfo/nsg-d Send replies (no attachments) to: [email protected] Questions for list admin: [email protected] Archive: http://MarsHome.org/mailman/private/NSG-d Unsubscribe: [email protected] Password or Options or Unsubscribe: http://MarsHome.org/mailman/options/NSG-d Hosted by CyberTeams.com and Mars Foundation(tm), http://MarsHome.org ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com http://postbiota.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
