I can't make it on Saturday August 31st. This Saturday works for me. 

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>   1. Re:  On self-improvement (Thaths)
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>   3. Re:  On self-improvement (Udhay Shankar N)
>   4. Re:  On self-improvement (Mahesh Murthy)
>   5. Re:  On self-improvement (Thaths)
>   6. Re:  On self-improvement (Mahesh Murthy)
>   7. Re:  Meet up. (Andy Deemer)
>   8. Re:  Meet up. (Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan)
>   9. Re:  Meet up. (Venkat Mangudi - Silk)
>  10. Re:  Fwd: [costiima] Rajeev Srinivasan on how Indians are
>      satisfied with illusions, not reality. (SS)
>  11. Re:  Meet up. (Biju Chacko)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:21:47 -0700
> From: Thaths <tha...@gmail.com>
> To: "silklist@lists.hserus.net" <silklist@lists.hserus.net>
> Subject: Re: [silk] On self-improvement
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> I cannot remember seeing this thread in Silk when it first happened.
> 
> I stumbled upon this corpse when I was searching for something else.
> 
> That said, I had a followup question.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kiran K Karthikeyan <
> kiran.karthike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can't remember why, but somewhere in between the half intoxicated
>> banter, the conversation shifted to self-improvement books a la
>> Stephen Covey and his ilk.
>> 
>> I typically stay away from them with the same amount of revulsion some
>> feminists have for balemia-inducing fashion magazines. Since I've not
>> read any of them, I may not be the best judge - but a title like
>> "Seven habits of highly effective people" is enough to make me turn
>> away. Neither am I interested in people of a spiritual disposition who
>> sell their Ferrari.
> 
> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a GTD-focused
> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different one?
> 
> S.
> -- 
> Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
> Carl:  Nuthin'.
> Homer: D'oh!
> Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
> Homer: Woo-hoo!
> 
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> In seven habits' defense it is actually quite good in a corporate coaching 
> environment if you find a trainer who knows his job. Anyway it is simply a 
> method by which you can become more systematic in whatever you do, if you 
> aren't already. 
> 
> Life hacker is strictly on a caveat emptor basis, totally may not work for 
> you. 
> 
> --srs (htc one x) 
> 
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> From: "Thaths" <tha...@gmail.com>
> To: "silklist@lists.hserus.net" <silklist@lists.hserus.net>
> Subject: [silk] On self-improvement
> Date: Tue, Aug 20, 2013 2:51 AM
> 
> 
> I cannot remember seeing this thread in Silk when it first happened.
> 
> I stumbled upon this corpse when I was searching for something else.
> 
> That said, I had a followup question.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kiran K Karthikeyan <
> kiran.karthike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Can't remember why, but somewhere in between the half intoxicated
>> banter, the conversation shifted to self-improvement books a la
>> Stephen Covey and his ilk.
>> 
>> I typically stay away from them with the same amount of revulsion some
>> feminists have for balemia-inducing fashion magazines. Since I've not
>> read any of them, I may not be the best judge - but a title like
>> "Seven habits of highly effective people" is enough to make me turn
>> away. Neither am I interested in people of a spiritual disposition who
>> sell their Ferrari.
> 
> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a GTD-focused
> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different one?
> 
> S.
> -- 
> Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
> Carl:  Nuthin'.
> Homer: D'oh!
> Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
> Homer: Woo-hoo!
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:57:15 +0530
> From: Udhay Shankar N <ud...@pobox.com>
> To: Silk List <silklist@lists.hserus.net>
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Thaths <tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a GTD-focused
>> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different one?
> 
> IMO, blogs like lifehacker are task-focused rather than trying to improve
> the reader. GTD might be a different beast - its proponents display some of
> the same quasi-religious fervour that a Covey trainer conveys. :)
> 
> Udhay
> 
> -- 
> 
> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:06:29 +0530
> From: Mahesh Murthy <mahesh.mur...@gmail.com>
> To: "silklist@lists.hserus.net" <silklist@lists.hserus.net>
> Subject: Re: [silk] On self-improvement
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> I quite like LifeHacker. A little less for the GTD-type info and lot more
> for the "smarter way to hack / use tech" stuff.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Thaths <tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I cannot remember seeing this thread in Silk when it first happened.
>> 
>> I stumbled upon this corpse when I was searching for something else.
>> 
>> That said, I had a followup question.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Kiran K Karthikeyan <
>> kiran.karthike...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can't remember why, but somewhere in between the half intoxicated
>>> banter, the conversation shifted to self-improvement books a la
>>> Stephen Covey and his ilk.
>>> 
>>> I typically stay away from them with the same amount of revulsion some
>>> feminists have for balemia-inducing fashion magazines. Since I've not
>>> read any of them, I may not be the best judge - but a title like
>>> "Seven habits of highly effective people" is enough to make me turn
>>> away. Neither am I interested in people of a spiritual disposition who
>>> sell their Ferrari.
>> 
>> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a GTD-focused
>> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different one?
>> 
>> S.
>> --
>> Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
>> Carl:  Nuthin'.
>> Homer: D'oh!
>> Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
>> Homer: Woo-hoo!
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:53:16 -0700
> From: Thaths <tha...@gmail.com>
> To: "silklist@lists.hserus.net" <silklist@lists.hserus.net>
> Subject: Re: [silk] On self-improvement
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> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Udhay Shankar N <ud...@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Thaths <tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a GTD-focused
>>> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different one?
>> IMO, blogs like lifehacker are task-focused rather than trying to improve
>> the reader.
> 
> 
> Isn't improving one's life just a collection of individual life hacks? How
> is a Carnegian tip about winning friends different from a life hack?
> 
> I guess self actualization is one of those irregular verbs: I am hacking my
> life, you are optimizing yours, he trying to self-help his way through his.
> 
> Carnegie's text reflects the zeitgeist of the time when it was written. So
> does Covey's.
> 
> 
>> GTD might be a different beast - its proponents display some of
>> the same quasi-religious fervour that a Covey trainer conveys. :)
> 
> Amen! Like religions, GTD has some good principles at its core, but is
> often taken to extremes.
> 
> S.
> -- 
> Homer: Hey, what does this job pay?
> Carl:  Nuthin'.
> Homer: D'oh!
> Carl:  Unless you're crooked.
> Homer: Woo-hoo!
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:30:40 +0530
> From: Mahesh Murthy <mahesh.mur...@gmail.com>
> To: "silklist@lists.hserus.net" <silklist@lists.hserus.net>
> Subject: Re: [silk] On self-improvement
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> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Thaths <tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Udhay Shankar N <ud...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Thaths <tha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> What do Silk listers think about blogs like Life hacker or a
>> GTD-focused
>>>> tip-sharing mailing list? Is they in the same genre? Or a different
>> one?
>>> IMO, blogs like lifehacker are task-focused rather than trying to improve
>>> the reader.
>> 
>> 
>> Isn't improving one's life just a collection of individual life hacks? How
>> is a Carnegian tip about winning friends different from a life hack?
>> 
>> I guess self actualization is one of those irregular verbs: I am hacking my
>> life, you are optimizing yours, he trying to self-help his way through his.
> 
> 
> Sure Thaths. Perhaps I'm just more receptive to the tech-tip kinda hacks
> than the re-imagine-your-kundalini type of hacks.
> 
> To each his/her own. :-)
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:57:34 +0530
> From: Andy Deemer <andydee...@gmail.com>
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Subject: Re: [silk] Meet up.
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> Yep - I'm definitely in!
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Udhay Shankar N <ud...@pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10-Aug-13 11:47 AM, rashmi v wrote:
>> 
>>> This weekend might be short notice for most people. I was thinking of
>>> Saturday August 31st.
>> 
>> Current schedule appears to be Friday Aug 30th, at the same venue as
>> last time (Naresh's office at Venkataramanan Associates in Langford Town)
>> 
>> Current confirmed attendees:
>> 
>> Rashmi
>> Naresh
>> Andy Deemer (+1?)
>> Udhay
>> 
>> Others?
>> --
>> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
> 
> 
> -- 
> Have you played my new iPad game yet?  The Stormglass
> Protocol<https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/id639520711?mt=8>.
> Try it today!
> 
> *And my other projects:*
> 
> - Creator, AsiaObscura <http://asiaobscura.com> (as seen in *The Daily Mail*,
> *BoingBoing*, *Weekly World News's The Sun, **io9*, *Ain't It Cool News*, *
> IncredibleThings*,* The Phnom Penh Insider* and *The China Daily*)
> 
> - Producer, Poultrygeist: Night of the Chicken
> Dead<http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poultrygeist-night-of-the-chicken-dead/>
> ("Perfect"
> - *The New York Times*, "Terrific" - *Entertainment Weekly*, "Brilliant" - *
> Salon.com*, "Hilarious" - Stephen King, "Hilarious" - *New York
> Magazine*, "Hilarious"
> - *MTV's The Big Ten*, "Hilarious" - *All Movie Guide*, "Hilarious" - *The*
> *SF Bay Guardian*, "Hilarious" - *Film Threat*, "Hilarious" -
> *Fangoria*, "Hilarious"
> -* **Rue Morgue, "*A vegetarian-manifesto masterpiece" - *PETA*)
> 
> - Writer & Director, Poultry in Motion: Truth is Stranger Than
> Chicken<http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poultry-in-motion-truth-is-stranger-than-chicken/>
> ("A
> fascinating, darkly funny glimpse into the underbelly of genre filmmaking"
> - *The Dissolve*, "Fascinating" - *DVD Talk*, "A must-see" - *Blu-ray*,
> "Fearlessly Honest" - *MSN*, "One of the best feature length behind the
> scenes documentaries." - *KillerFilm*)
> 
> - Tributor, Pyongyang
> Too<http://asiaobscura.com/2010/07/pyongyang-too-a-tribute-to-guy-delisles-pyongyang-graphic-travelogue-comic.html>
> ("Un
> belle hommage" - *T?l?rama*, "La surprise de sa vie!" ? *Casemate*)
> 
> - Eater, via The Huffington Post <http://huffingtonpost.com/andy-deemer> (As
> seen in *Bon Appetit*, *The Village Voice, TrendHunter, That's Nerdalicious
> *and *IncredibleThings*)
> 
> 
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:59:36 +0530
> From: Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan <chandrachoo...@gmail.com>
> To: silklist@lists.hserus.net
> Subject: Re: [silk] Meet up.
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> I'm maybe in.
> 
> On 8/20/13, Andy Deemer <andydee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yep - I'm definitely in!
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Udhay Shankar N <ud...@pobox.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10-Aug-13 11:47 AM, rashmi v wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This weekend might be short notice for most people. I was thinking of
>>>> Saturday August 31st.
>>> 
>>> Current schedule appears to be Friday Aug 30th, at the same venue as
>>> last time (Naresh's office at Venkataramanan Associates in Langford Town)
>>> 
>>> Current confirmed attendees:
>>> 
>>> Rashmi
>>> Naresh
>>> Andy Deemer (+1?)
>>> Udhay
>>> 
>>> Others?
>>> --
>>> ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Have you played my new iPad game yet?  The Stormglass
>> Protocol<https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/id639520711?mt=8>.
>> Try it today!
>> 
>> *And my other projects:*
>> 
>> - Creator, AsiaObscura <http://asiaobscura.com> (as seen in *The Daily
>> Mail*,
>> *BoingBoing*, *Weekly World News's The Sun, **io9*, *Ain't It Cool News*, *
>> IncredibleThings*,* The Phnom Penh Insider* and *The China Daily*)
>> 
>> - Producer, Poultrygeist: Night of the Chicken
>> Dead<http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poultrygeist-night-of-the-chicken-dead/>
>> ("Perfect"
>> - *The New York Times*, "Terrific" - *Entertainment Weekly*, "Brilliant" -
>> *
>> Salon.com*, "Hilarious" - Stephen King, "Hilarious" - *New York
>> Magazine*, "Hilarious"
>> - *MTV's The Big Ten*, "Hilarious" - *All Movie Guide*, "Hilarious" - *The*
>> *SF Bay Guardian*, "Hilarious" - *Film Threat*, "Hilarious" -
>> *Fangoria*, "Hilarious"
>> -* **Rue Morgue, "*A vegetarian-manifesto masterpiece" - *PETA*)
>> 
>> - Writer & Director, Poultry in Motion: Truth is Stranger Than
>> Chicken<http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/poultry-in-motion-truth-is-stranger-than-chicken/>
>> ("A
>> fascinating, darkly funny glimpse into the underbelly of genre filmmaking"
>> - *The Dissolve*, "Fascinating" - *DVD Talk*, "A must-see" - *Blu-ray*,
>> "Fearlessly Honest" - *MSN*, "One of the best feature length behind the
>> scenes documentaries." - *KillerFilm*)
>> 
>> - Tributor, Pyongyang
>> Too<http://asiaobscura.com/2010/07/pyongyang-too-a-tribute-to-guy-delisles-pyongyang-graphic-travelogue-comic.html>
>> ("Un
>> belle hommage" - *T?l?rama*, "La surprise de sa vie!" ? *Casemate*)
>> 
>> - Eater, via The Huffington Post <http://huffingtonpost.com/andy-deemer>
>> (As
>> seen in *Bon Appetit*, *The Village Voice, TrendHunter, That's Nerdalicious
>> *and *IncredibleThings*)
> 
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> Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:05:22 +0530
> From: Venkat Mangudi - Silk <s...@venkatmangudi.com>
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> Subject: Re: [silk] Meet up.
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> Another maybe.
> On Aug 20, 2013 9:59 AM, "Chandrachoodan Gopalakrishnan" <
> chandrachoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'm maybe in.
>> 
>> On 8/20/13, Andy Deemer <andydee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yep - I'm definitely in!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Udhay Shankar N <udhay@pobox.c

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