> On 6 Sep 2014, at 20:41, SS <[email protected]> wrote:
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> John Sundman wrote:
>>> Shiv says  "In Britain the state attempts to protect vulnerable
>> children from physical and emotional abuse by parents," and then
>> insinuates, if I understand him correctly, that this impulse to
>> protect children from abusive parents is somehow correlated to the
>> kidnapping and rape of children in Rotherham.
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> Yes. There is a correlation. 
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> Parental control of children has loosened up from state intervention.
> You cannot regulate a rebellious 12 year old child's ill advised actions
> because if parental actions go beyond a point that can even be called
> "emotional abuse" let alone physical beating - the parents can get
> arrested, which sort of defeats the purpose. The state watches the
> parents.
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> Once the child is out on the streets she can be tempted by older wealthy
> men - as described in the article, if you actually bothered reading it. 
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> Somehow, it appears that Asian families with their restrictions on their
> daughters do not get subjected to the same standards of state scrutiny
> on whether there is any emotional abuse going on there
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>>> I'm not even going to try to parse the discussion of "honor
>> killings" or of how "consensual sex" is somehow tied to child rape.
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> Honor killings is about excessive parental control over the sexuality of
> the child. Sex, consensual or not is just not on - the girl is not even
> allowed out of home without supervision. However, once a child is out on
> the street her abuse (as described in the article) starts with
> consensual sex, drugs and later blackmail.
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Consider then this gruesome report from Pakistan. 
http://www.dawn.com/news/1129614/

Consider also the possibility that victims of child sex abuse who are of Asian 
origin in the UK are less likely to report abuse.

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