Daniel G. Sanchez wrote:
> 
> Does anyone have any factual information on which is better, Mild
> Silver Protein (MSP) or straight Colloidal Silver (CS)?  I've read some 
> negative
> comments about Mild Silver Protein, but none were backed up with
> facts.  The MSP that I am aware of uses EDTA (an
> amino acid chelating agent also used in Chelation therapy).  Dr.
> Farber used this Mild Silver Protein to help cure himself of a bad
> case of Lyme Disease.  His book , Micro Silver Bullet describes his
> experiences in achieving this but does not get into the pros and cons
> of using MSP vs CS.

Below are some facts about CS & mild protein silver (which doesn't sound
like a colloidal at all to me as it's not even in the name.)  Following
that are some comments/opinions and an update on how CS is helping me.

Regarding Mild Silver Protein vs. CS., here's a quote from Zane
Baranowski's booklet, "Colloidal Silver, The Natural Antibiotic
Alternative."
"Of these five manufacturing processes, the grind process and the
electro-colloidal process were primarily used to manufacture c.s. 
Today, the FDA still allows both manufacturing techniques to be used. 
However, of these two methods the electro-colloidal manufacturing
process is generally considered to be far superior.  With the grind
method the particles of silver are usually no finer than four 
one-thousands of an inch.  They may or may not be magnetically charged. 
The size of the silver paritcle is so large compared to the possible
charge, that the repelling forces would not be strong enough to offset
the pull of gravity on the particles, which will tend to settle to the
bottom of the solution, producing a less effectvie product.  To offset
this settling problem, some manufacturers add a "stailizer" (usually a
protein) to make the solution more viscous and keep them suspended for a
longer period of time.  the silver particles will still eventually
settle to the bottom.  The container will have to be shaken to
re-disperse the particles.  **However, the stabilizers tend to block the
beneficial effects of the silver paritlce.**

"Other procedures used in producing colloidal silver that involve a
simple mixture of metal and liquid (grind process) cannot possess as
much potential as electro-colloids and are therefore of questionable
value.  The proper electrical process allows silver particles to be
drawn off the ingot that are much smaller than four one-thousandths of
an inch diameter.  If the silver particles are within the range of
one-thousandths to four one-millionths of an inch in diameter, and are
uniformly charged, a stabilizer is not required to keep the particles
suspended.  The propelling magnetic force will offset the pull of
gravity on the partilces, which are animated by "Brownian Movement", and
remain in suspension in a liquid medium almost indefinitely, their
stability depending on the size of the particles, the medium used and
the manufacturing process employed." (pages 4, 5)

Some other excerpts from Baranowski's booklet can be found at: 
http://www.elixa.com/silver/zaneuse.htm and
http://www.elixa.com/silver/zanesize.htm

Before reading the booklet, I suspected that all the hype about mild
silver protein was a case of the "Emperor's New Clothes".  After reading
the booklet, I am more inclined to think so.  I chose to make my own CS
to treat Lyme disease due to cost restraints and some bad rap about
Farber's and Discover's mild silver protein products (rumors of
unsatisfied customers.)  The money I would have put into my first
season's worth of commercial silver I spent on equipment & testing for
PPM.  From my web seaches and the advertising, I sensed a lot of
mudslinging between these competitors, and even wonder if they are
behind the FDA clamp down on small manufacturers of colloidal silver.

I am not selling my own CS; it's for personal use.  Taken orally, it has
helped me as much as the best oral abx I've been on over the past 2
years for treatment of LD.  It even resolved some problems that the abx
didn't seem to help at all, such as cyclical mild but abnormal
depression.  I won't be absolutely sure I am cured of LD for a while
(maybe 6 - 18 months) just because of the tricky nature of Lyme
disease... Just this week what started out like a relapse ended up early
detection of a kidney stone attack!  I even suspect the same thing went
on in Dec/January, as both times, I had generalized aches & pains so
similar to LD until it finally focalized around the kidney area Friday
and I became quite nauseous.

It's looking better & better for LD; too bad silver doesn't cure kidney
stones!  Incidentally, my MD doesn't think silver caused them either; 
it's probably the high protein diet I've been on plus recent
under-hydration due to travel.  I had a previous hx of stones with
pregnancies-- that was all pre-silver days.

Since LD can cause permanent damage, it will take time to assess what is
permanent damage, and what could be another flareup or something totally
unrelated like what happened this week.  Since I've had such good
results with CS since Oct., 96, I have no reason to shell out $30 or $40
for 4 oz. of the Emperor's brands.  I haven't noticed those
manufacturers boasting about their small particle size, either.

A similar discussion came up recently on the sci.med.diseases.lyme
newsgroup; when I posted a paraphrase of the above quote, the salesman
> from Discover chose not to respond back.  He could not say the CS was
ineffective; he just boasted that his product was the superior protein
silver. They are Farber's competetor and alleged supplier of the silver
that cured him before he started making & selling his own.

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