Hi Susan and List!, Well, you went and accomplished it.....we are thinking! :) At least I am!
At 05:53 PM 12/23/97 -0800, you wrote: >WHOA!!!!!!! > >I am a beleiver in both these things. I don't think I can come up with >autopsy report but I could try. Nurses who were there knew it. > >If you recall reading things on the list and the Rife list is the only one >I have been reading for a long enough time to say this. Once in a while >someone has come up with the theory that if a little bit works then a whole >lot is better. Speaking electrically I believe we were speaking in amps. > >I knew about Ms Russel from one of our friends, and that was another >lifetime say 40 years ago, I really don't remember. In fact it never even >was in my mind until the gold was mentioned here. I'm grateful for the >memory, it doesn't always work that well. I'm sure you have read the uses >for gold and it's marvelous effects in the early 20th century when we in >medicine had nothing for most things and the life expectancy was about >45-55 years. > Well, so much for the coroner's report. :( >I'm of the opinion for myself that if something works for me and I >understand what I am doing then it is OK for me. I researched the Rife/Bare >device relentlessly or so I thought at least for me it was relentless >before I understood enough about it to build a device for myself. I learn a >lot from this list. My remarks about the gold were far from being caustic >or anti anything as you recall I just stated the story. Truth be told, >does anyone know what the lethal level of any of these things are? > There are no deaths due to the use of pure electrolytically produced colloidal silver solutions to this date. I challenge anyone in the world to come up with one that can pass the truth test. I do not believe there is a level that has ever been found that would cause death in regard to the gold solutions made in like manner, as well. The only reactions that are potentially dangerous to certain people (not everyone) are due to impetuous consumption. No that is not a new theological doctrine, it is drinking too much...too fast....and with too many "bugs" dying in your system, too quickly for your kidneys to handle all the "fallout". If anyone knows of something I am missing.....PLEASE ...add it to my statements anytime you consider it appropriate!!! I thank you in advance!!!! >You are exactly right in that no one knows, nor will anyone ever know >exactly what Ms. Russll was given in those shots. Her pain was intractable >and excruciating (this from our friend). Whatever it was I know for sure >it would be buried far away where it will never be found. I also believe >that whatever was done was out of mercy. Remember that gold relieves the >pain of many diseases that we know of. > You are right, the gold does relieve pain in wonderful ways. It should also be moderately used, and taking as much as possible is not a good idea with anything, if that kind of dose is not required. I think you are helping us to be wise in our thinking toward this. >So, I am about to embark on CS that was made for me and I have reacted to >silver before so I'm sort of scared that I'll lose ground again if I react >to it. With my illness, comes many opportunistic organisms and lots of >candida and so forth so I believe from what I have attempted to discover >that I will try it after Christmas. I just came out of an exacerbation and >I need time to repair a bit. > I am sorry, did you mention what your challenge was at this time? I know CS can be started at such a low level as to be totally non threatening to any disease state. It is just a matter of starting at a dosage so low, then gradually increasing at a steady rate until you are at a level that seems right for you. Then adjust as is appropriate. A maintenance dose is often continued at a lower level that the therapeutic dose that is used to eliminate the disease. If the solution is pale yellow then it is not concentrated, at least not likely concentrated. If you start with a teaspoon of the solution and put it into 6 ounces of distilled water and take this one half an hour each meal (3 X per day)...this should be a very safe dose for anybody. If you have a reaction to the first dose, then dilute the following doses further until you get one you can handle and then begin increasing it (staying within your own tolerance throughout). This is the way I have done it with friends and family and have never had any problems. It would be good to make it in a way that you can come up with a concentration that is relatively close each time, that way you can be somewhat consistent with your dosages. I find that once folks have the "bugs" on the run they can increase the dosage rapidly, as threat of the rapid "die off" has passed (as they have been gradually "killed off"). This is an individual thing. Doing a kidney cleanse is a good method to ease into CS treatment, it is a good thing to do in general. Information on this can be found at <healthfree.com>. That will make the transition a breeze, and minimize the "fallout" overload that can happen from "die off". Once again, if one begins gradually (with diluted solutions...1 tsp of 5ppm + 6 ounces of dist. water) and increases slowly, all these things can be avoided. >I enjoyed your rational thinking about the little story I wrote and I am >sure you are more right than anything else about this. You may find from >time to time I may say something out of concern for you because I have had >the opportunity to experience it if not first hand then second and I >personally am trying to learn from other's mistakes instead of doing the >same wrong thing and getting the same wrong result. > Feel free to save me from myself at anytime! :) I can use wisdom , as we all can. >I wouldn't have built a Rife device and use it regularly if I were't in >absolute agreement about the state of affairs in this country where you are >killed with the cure--as I might have been. In fact I really know about >what the pharmaceutical Co's can do first hand. Murder is not beneath >them. > Of course , you are certainly right about this. ...and ....You built your own Rife device! That is most impressive! >What a terrible topic for Christmas!! I wish you all a very happy and holy >holiday season and good health in the new year!! > Well, what can I say?....not the most wonderful of topics, but for some....a needed inconvenience, perhaps. I think there is someone being helped with each thing that is brought out in posts on this list. Even those things that are incorrect, or manipulative, can be "brought around" to be beneficial with light applied in the proper proportions. :) > Those with losts of experience with CS, I would love to hear from you. >How do you take it and how much. I don't know the ppm I have. It is >golden in color. Please share with me your experiences as I get ready to >embark on yet another adventure! Is less better than more? Or how does >that work? >>> > If I did not answer this adequately above, I am willing to try yet again. Or perhaps another will have a more effective method or insightful understanding to share. That is a wonderful thing about this List! >>Please don't be offended, these questions are asked in a reasonable manner, >>and for a good purpose? We do all tend to jump to conclusions at times, and >>the media is very good at helping encourage us to do this. :) >>*********** >I'm not offended. >> >>>Be careful, evidently the range from therapeutic to lethal is quite narrow. >>********** >Are there any dosage tables for it? Colloidal Gold. Things to avoid and so >forth? >> Perhaps someone knows of this, I don't at this time. I shared a dosage table in the article on gold that I posted several days ago. The article was written by Dr.Edward Ochsner M.D., a consulting surgeon at Augustine Hospital, Chicago , Il....in around 1926. These are his statements. Necessary conditions for maximum effect in colloidal gold solutions: 1)The preparation must be stable 2) '''''''''''''''''''''' of definately known strength 3)The particles of gold must be small and of fairly uniform size 4)The gold must not be held in suspension by the use of stabilizers 5)Stabilizers seem to coat the particles of gold and this renders colloidal gold less active 6)Soluble gold salts are toxic and to be avoided in preparing these solutions 7)PURE COLLOIDAL GOLD IS NON-TOXIC (IN SUITABLE DOSES) The concentration the good doctor recommended was the following: 1)Each ten drops of colloidal gold solution is to have the concentration of 1/500 th grain of pure metalic gold. 2)The initial dose was 30 drops in a wineglassful of water one-half hour before each meal, three times a day. 3)This dose was increased one drop per meal per day until a total dose of 60 drops per meal was achieved. 4)Nearly all of the Doctors patientes tolerated these doses well and without gastric disturbances. 5)If any "burning in the stomach" (acid indigestion) was experienced, or a thickening of the tongue (a "beefy" sensation"), then the dosage was reduced by 10 drops and kept at that new level. 6)When desirable, an intravenous injection was used of the same concentration , given at the rate of 1-5 cc and administered twice weekly. If anyone would like to do the math for us and convert these measures to mgs, and what that would come out to be in terms of ppm solution and volume per dose, that sure would be just peachy! :) >******* >Right now, anecdotal evidence is all we can claim in the Rife area. >Sometimes it is just this type of "heresay" that encourages one of us on to >something useful!! Well, we are in agreement on the process and it's value in our study and improving our health, but we are not defining our terms equivalently. When I spoke of "hearsay", it was not in the form personal testimony (that is, from personal experience). Anecdotal "evidence" is fine, and you are right in that this type of thing is what we base a lot of our decisioins on. It works for us. I am biased! I will admit it! There! I reserve the right to reject all claims against colloidal solutions of silver and gold, without absolute proof to back them up. It is exactly what the pharmaceutical companies do through their legislative/medical boards all accross the country, but in opposition to the truth. Well, as far as I am concerned, if folks want us to throw in the towel, they are going to have to prove their claims against the truth, these solutions are innocent until proven guilty. If they are proven guilty, then I am out of a job. :) (it is ok...I have a better one!) >I guess my message did what it was meant to do--make >one think a little. Wouldn't it be great if we did have the real research >that we need, hard evidence,conclusive and repeatable. I believe cancer >would at the very least become a chronic illness, if not curable. >****************** I think we have all the evidence we need, now all the research data required to make the "blind to see", that is something else entirely. There will never be enough "research evidence" to get these folks converted to the truth. It is their very nature to reject the light. >Right now most of any of the things we have is anecdotal and that would be >called heresay. However this heresay/anecdotal information has saved some >lives. Right, some of the "hearsay" comes from credible witnesses. Our success in this method of information gathering, is based upon trust. Am I wrong? We must trust God to lead, we must trust our fellow man to be truthful. No? Some are trustworthy, others ...well...not so much so. Unfortunately, but then ..that is the world in which we live. >Not just my concern with overdosing but just getting the message >out there that you don't have to die. Many antibiotics aren't effective >anymore because of overuse so we probably have the next right answer in The >CS and CG. I will however probably be forever concerned about toxicity, >which in a nutshell nearly took my life. In fact it did take life as I >knew it. Now I have a different life. The love and concern I have >experienced on these lists have given me more than I can say. Which is of >course HOPE! Thanks so much. > I am sure we would all say you are most welcome! And please consider the things in this post about doses, and a gradual method of administering these solutions. Also, the method of cleansing the kidneys and the liver ...info available at the site... <healthfree.com>. A good bowel cleansing program will help tremendously with removing toxins from the body. There is also chelation therapy that can work wonders in even removing heavy metals and chemicals from the system as well. These things with the colloidal therapy can work real wonders. And don't forget those lymphatic exercises and a good diet with 4 ounces of distilled water every half-hour! :) There is a lot of hope, and there are a lot of people who have "been there" and recovered too. >Now I need help with the CS I have. > >Scott, you are a marvelous skeptic!!! Courtroom language just scares me to >death. It's one of those "gotcha things"> >> I thought that was the way real skeptics were supposed to talk. Sorry to upset you! :) >>Thanks for your concern, and please don't be offended by my role as "list >>skeptic"! :) > >>God Bless, >>Scott >>John 3:16 >>"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that >>whosoever believeth on Him should not perish , but have everlasting life." > >Blessings to you! >Susan+ > >Light is Living in God's Holy Thoughts! I would love to live there continually, but my wretchedness causes me to stray, therefore I must strive for purity again, attain it for but a moment, and fall yet again. Such is walking in the light for me. I must rely continually on the promise of God's word:"...whosoever believeth on Him should NOT perish, but HAVE everlasting life." If I make it, it will be because of His mercy, not my goodness. God Bless Ya Susan! Scott John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish , but have everlasting life."
