Hello there Youngsters,

Since "the Blue Lady" isn't around to stir up some excitement I felt the
need.

Since I am retired and not doing a lot of consulting I have taken up the
cudgel for CS.

I have just acquired a spectrophotometer $225.00 new army surplus and a
Leeds Northrop conductivity cell. I have several dozen samples in 16 oz
clear "SOLO" plastic drinking cups
"aging" in my basement work shop. They have been made with all
combinations of 36, 145,180,280 Vdc. with spacings of .8", 1", and 2".
There is a magnificent color display from clear to "Coor's beer" yellow.
Some would turn slightly yellow after shutdown of the cell or over night
some remained clear, and some turned yellow during the process.

I am just starting to sort this all out. I wouldn't work at 10Kv because
of the inordinate amount of time (4hrs) while with 280 V it's done in 7
minutes. By the way if you are going to use 280 Vdc at .8" or 1" spacing
then you need my simple mechanical agitator. It is a $0.99 electric
motor from Radio Shack with about a 2" length of insulation from a #14
solid copper wire. It will stir my 7 pint tank which is 4 1/2" dia by
11" tall.  Works like gangbusters.

If you are going to experiment then I would suggest a digital meter in
the negative line to record the ma. with time at a given voltage. Then
plot the data note Tyndale and color. By the way after one or two 14 oz
runs cut the time by about 25% stop the process look at the Tyndale.
Restart the process
and run about another 10% of time. Repeat this until you get yellow in
the cell Then you will have a good idea of timing for the color you
want.

I have s.e.m. samples at two universities and three ppm samples with CS
Pro. I am trying to learn to use the spectrophotometer, but have not yet
received my standards.

As was pointed out your meters for ppm are useless until you convert the
metallic silver into an ionized solution.  As for my "L&N" ( you can't
find a better one) conductivity cell both distilled and
deionized-demineralized water check better that .5 micro seimens. (I
don't believe it) but when I place the cell into the "beer" colored
sample the conductivity was 988,000 ohms or 1.01 ms.The reason I am
skeptical at one time I wanted to measure moisture in the ground using
"Beckman blocks" (1/4" slab of plaster with copper screen on both sides
encased in about 1/4" of plaster.).
DC causes a space charge and the readings drift all over the place. When
I ran a variable frequency
ohmmeter( made it) the results stabilized about 900 hz so I used 1 khz.
I must investigate this with CS.

If  there is an electronic "techie" out there that would like to tackle
the measuring of Tyndale in the cell during formation of CS so that we
can consistently hit our desired end point, talk to me of the net. I am
up to my ears with what I have going now.

I have more to say but not now, i.e. temperature, color, Tyndale, etc.


Robert





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