On 27 Jun 98 at 14:14, Joyce Inouye wrote:

I think it would be a great idea to collect complementary information
and to start identifying the best silver on the market.  This would
include complementary natural products which have proven to have a
high success rate for various diseased states (perhaps over 25%
success rate within 2 to 4 months??). 

If the site were a non-profit, then all money earned can go into
buying the products we advocate for those who are sick (since
insurance companies do not pay for natural cures.) People like Daemon
decide who needs the products most.

We can create a form which would be easy to fill out--listing all the
critical information--brand name of silver, particulate size,
"diseases" silver is reported to be effective against, etc. This may
work if we can figure out a way to check the accuracy of the data, and
to check for variables such as nutritional supplements.  

For example, a friend had a horrible infection in her lower legs which
she contracted during a knee cap replacement in the hospital. For the
last 3 years or so, the doctors were not able to get rid of it. When I
gave her a noni cream to put on it, the leg began to heal quite
rapidly--the swelling went down and the black skin color lightened.
When her doctor saw her leg, he said, "It's a good cream."  (meaning
the drug he had given her). My friend answered "Yes."  I asked my
friend why hadn't she told the doctor the truth about the noni cream,
and she said "Because they get mad when I tell them."

Is there any one out there with a lot of time who could help
coordinate such a project?  We would need some technical people, some
medical people, some web page designers, perhaps a statistician, etc.

:)  Joyce


On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, M. G. Devour wrote:

> Dameon is giving us some great insights into his treatment and 
> experience. He's put together of a *lot* of different things which 
> are helping him survive the disease. Thank you, sir!
> 
> For the rest of us, I think we should try to become as well informed
> as we can, so we are able, like Dameon, to assemble a complement of
> tecniques to sustain our health or solve our health problems. CS is
> a useful component for such a regimen and a versitile tool. We need
> to continue to build our understanding of CS. That's what this
> group's for.
> 
> > There seems to be an on-going debate about which silver is the
> > best. I know this: Concentration and penetration are key: If the
> > particles are smaller, they'll get into more places and be more
> > affective.
> 
> The WaterOz product has obviously been effective for Dameon. When he
> first made contact with us, I was skeptical of it because of the
> high concentration claimed. This attitude comes from the baseless
> claims *some* vendors make, and simply *not* having the facilities to
> test and compare and categorize all the different products that are
> competing for our attention.
> 
> I want to be able to *know* the particle size and concentration of a
> product, and have some way to objectively measure the effectiveness
> of a preparation. Without that, although we might know from Dameon's
> experience that WaterOz works, we won't know what *other*
> preparations might work, and most importantly, we won't know *why*.
> 
> I'd like to resist the temptation to classify any one product as
> *best*, since different features are better in different situations.
> For some, cost might be more critical than a certain degree of
> effectiveness, particularly when dealing with less demanding
> conditions. For others, cost is no object. Then we've got folks for
> whom do-it-yourself is essential, like Cisco's folks out in Guam.
> What all have in common is the need to know that what they buy or
> make is safe and effective enough to produce results.
> 
> Ultimately, I'd like us to be able to classify the various CS
> preparations, equipment, and methods by valid measures and 
> properties. Then we could examine any new technique or product and be 
> able to say, with reasonable certainty, whether or not it will work 
> for its intended use.
> 
> Then people will have the *most* options, because they will discover
> that a lot of different products work, and be able to avoid the ones 
> that won't, and be able to tell the difference.
> 
> > I hope all this makes it clear why I view this brand of silver
> > water so important. 
> 
> It's important because it *works*. What I want to know is *why*. Then
> we could point to the kinds of equipment that you would need to make
> something as good, or know why that wouldn't be practical. In any 
> case, we at least would know our options. 
> 
> > ... Everytime I look at a bottle of drugs now I cringe and hope
> > that WaterOz keeps on working so that I never have to go on them
> > again!
> 
> Amen to that! Thank you Dameon. I wish you well, brother.
> 
> Mike D.
> 
> 
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [[email protected]                       ]
> [Speaking only for myself...              ]
> 
> 
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Sincerely,

:)  Joyce Inouye   <[email protected]>



On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, M. G. Devour wrote:

> Dameon is giving us some great insights into his treatment and 
> experience. He's put together of a *lot* of different things which 
> are helping him survive the disease. Thank you, sir!
> 
> For the rest of us, I think we should try to become as well informed
> as we can, so we are able, like Dameon, to assemble a complement of
> tecniques to sustain our health or solve our health problems. CS is
> a useful component for such a regimen and a versitile tool. We need
> to continue to build our understanding of CS. That's what this
> group's for.
> 
> > There seems to be an on-going debate about which silver is the
> > best. I know this: Concentration and penetration are key: If the
> > particles are smaller, they'll get into more places and be more
> > affective.
> 
> The WaterOz product has obviously been effective for Dameon. When he
> first made contact with us, I was skeptical of it because of the
> high concentration claimed. This attitude comes from the baseless
> claims *some* vendors make, and simply *not* having the facilities to
> test and compare and categorize all the different products that are
> competing for our attention.
> 
> I want to be able to *know* the particle size and concentration of a
> product, and have some way to objectively measure the effectiveness
> of a preparation. Without that, although we might know from Dameon's
> experience that WaterOz works, we won't know what *other*
> preparations might work, and most importantly, we won't know *why*.
> 
> I'd like to resist the temptation to classify any one product as
> *best*, since different features are better in different situations.
> For some, cost might be more critical than a certain degree of
> effectiveness, particularly when dealing with less demanding
> conditions. For others, cost is no object. Then we've got folks for
> whom do-it-yourself is essential, like Cisco's folks out in Guam.
> What all have in common is the need to know that what they buy or
> make is safe and effective enough to produce results.
> 
> Ultimately, I'd like us to be able to classify the various CS
> preparations, equipment, and methods by valid measures and 
> properties. Then we could examine any new technique or product and be 
> able to say, with reasonable certainty, whether or not it will work 
> for its intended use.
> 
> Then people will have the *most* options, because they will discover
> that a lot of different products work, and be able to avoid the ones 
> that won't, and be able to tell the difference.
> 
> > I hope all this makes it clear why I view this brand of silver
> > water so important. 
> 
> It's important because it *works*. What I want to know is *why*. Then
> we could point to the kinds of equipment that you would need to make
> something as good, or know why that wouldn't be practical. In any 
> case, we at least would know our options. 
> 
> > ... Everytime I look at a bottle of drugs now I cringe and hope
> > that WaterOz keeps on working so that I never have to go on them
> > again!
> 
> Amen to that! Thank you Dameon. I wish you well, brother.
> 
> Mike D.
> 
> 
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [[email protected]                       ]
> [Speaking only for myself...              ]
> 
> 
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