Hi Vern

I thought that this area was fairly unknown and uncharted.  I cannot
claim to have any kind of well thought out theory of how CS works in the
body (or in vitro for that matter).  It would be good to hear from
someone who has conducted such testing.  I am assuming, from your
comments, that there have been in vitro tests done with CS.

If tests have not conclusively shown CS "killing" bacteria, then posing
*possible* explanations (via this list), and generating ideas for
different ways to test CS, seems to me to be the best way of arriving at
the "truth."


Kris

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> From:         It's not me[SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:         Thursday, June 04, 1998 3:51 AM
> To:   [email protected]
> Subject:      Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture
> 
> Kris and Jim,
> 
> I'm not quite following all the talk about converting bacteria.
> Haven't the
> in vitro tests shown CS to kill the bacteria or virus rather than
> convert
> it?  I realize that this is different than in vivo, but why would we
> assume
> that the results would be to convert rather than kill?  I'm curious
> how this
> idea originated.  Could you give me some more info. (research or
> theory)
> that could enlighten me a bit on this.  Also, how much magnification
> is
> needed to see the acidophilus bacteria?  Thanks,
> 
> Vern
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, June 03, 1998 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture
> 
> 
> > From:          "Hermes, Kristofer J"
> <[email protected]>
> > To:            "'Silver List'" <[email protected]>
> > Subject:       Re: Easy experiment - what about yogurt culture
> > Date:          Wed, 3 Jun 1998 10:10:19 -0400
> > Reply-to:      [email protected]
> 
> 
> > What if there are no "good" or "bad" microbes, but just microbes
> that
> > "mutate" from a "good" to a "bad" STATE dependent on the "terrain"
> of
> > one's body.  With a highly acidic body, microbes that would normally
> > exist as "good" microbes, revert to "bad" ones...without the actual
> > CREATION of NEW "bad" microbes.  The reason why this thought is
> > interesting is that it implies that CS does not actually "kill"
> > microbes, but merely "converts" them.
> >
> > I am not a microbiologist, so I am (ab)using lay terms here...sorry
> if
> > this is offensive to anyone.  Is there someone on the list who might
> be
> > able to expand on this theory?
> >
> I'm with you on this Kris! I believe this is what is happening most
> of the time. We are not really killing the microbes, just causing
> them to change back to "good" bacteria.
> 
> > I am taking an Acidophilus product that does not need refrigeration.
> It
> > is made by Da Vinci and is called "Flora" (probably available at
> many
> > supplement stores).  If this type of experiment could be done with
> > Acidophilus by itself (and not in yogurt), we might be able to make
> a
> > determination more easily.  Has anyone done this, or does anyone
> have
> > the tools to do it?
> >
> I have a darkfield microscope, and as soon as I get a little time, I
> will give this idea a try, to see if we can see all this take place
> under the microscope. I'll post to the list anything I find out.
> This is a good thread, keep it going. Maybe we will all learn
> something new here.
> God Bless!
> Jim
> 
> > This is all very fascinating stuff!
> >
> >
> > Kris
> >
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