Hi: If Dr. Farber's experience with Lyme disease and colloidal silver has been published I would appreciate a reference to it.
Dean Woodward -----Original Message----- From: Arnie Farber [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 04, 1998 4:22 PM To: [email protected] Cc: ARNIE FARBER Subject: Re: (Fwd) Lyme site and argyria M. G. Devour wrote: > > Here's the other post in which I question the accuracy of one of the > most visible "argyria" related sites. This site showed up *first* > when I did an infoseek search on the single word "argyria." > > Please read the whole thing. It gets a bit technical in the middle, > but my conclusions are readable. > > Any of you with the training to double check my math below, please > comment! > > Mike D. > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > Subject: Lyme site and argyria > Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:57:03 -5 > > Hi List! > > On my quest for argyria information the other night, I found this site > by a Lyme disease victim by the name of Don Chinnini: > > http://cassia.jerseycape.net/index.htm > > It makes an interesting read, and gathers in one place a lot of > information that might be useful to Lyme sufferers. > > He cautions *against* using CS, although he experimented with it for a > short time, because of the argyria scare he put himself through. > > If you follow the link for "Medical Journals and Other Information" > from the home page, and scroll down to the "articles listed by product > type" section, you will find a group of links to silver related > article abstracts. These come from a Medline search he did on silver > and argyria. The link to this exact spot is: > > http://cassia.jerseycape.net/library.html#product > > Take a tour of these articles, if you dare. They list a bunch of > cases of argyria from a host of different sources and exposure > levels. Only one abstract even mentions use of "silver salts or > colloidal silver" as potential causes of argyria, but doesn't > identify the source of silver in the case studied. > > There's even a link to the "Why Rosemary turned blue" page, that > recounts one woman's experience of argyria from -- not colloidal > silver, but prescription *nose drops.* > > Argyria is bad news. And we certainly should take every precaution to > be sure it doesn't happen to us. But all this evidence damns, but does > not convict, colloidal silver as a cause of argyria. > > The most interesting, and disturbing, "fact" reported in this > presentation, is Chinnini's claim that: > > "Figuring by molecular weights (from the article below, Silver-blue > nails), I once calculated that, at the dosage recommended of one > teaspoon per day, I would reach this cumulative level at three years > duration (using a 20ppm solution)." > > And in a note to the "Silver-blue nails" article mentioned above: > > "By my calculations, 15 grams of silver translates to 3 years of > additive use of "one teaspoon per day" of a 20 ppm solution." > > I don't know whether this is the result of error, or a deliberate > attempt at deception, but there is no way I can figure that he has > done his "calculation" correctly. > > ***Tom, Jim and others, please check me on the following?!*** > > Firstly, ppm as we have been using it is milligrams per liter, or ppm > by weight. He claims to have calculated it by molecular weights, which > gives a different result. > > A silver preparation of 20 milligrams per Liter would yield about 100 > micrograms of silver per teaspoon. (Assuming 5 ml/tsp) > > 100 micrograms per day would yield only about 110 *milligrams* of > silver in three years! That's just over 1/10th of a gram! > > Obviously he didn't take ppm to mean milligrams per liter! > > So how about this molecular weight business?? > > Silver has an atomic weight of about 108. Water has a molecular > weight of 18. The ratio of molecular weights is 6:1. > > So a preparation of twenty silver atoms per million water molecules > would have a *weight* relationship of: > > 108 x 20 > -------------- = 120 x 10e-6 or 120 ppm by weight! > 18 x 10e6 > > Okay, even taking a "20 ppm" solution to have 120 milligrams per > liter, one teaspoon of *this* would yield 600 micrograms of silver. > > 600 micrograms per day for three years would be 657 milligrams! > That's a bit over 1/2 a gram. More than I'd like to take, but still > *far* short of 15 grams! > > So am I mistaken or is this fellow *way* off base? > > I realize by now that I've probably lost 9 out of 10 of my readers > with all this ppm and molecular weight mumbo-jumbo. And that's what's > scary! I'm sure not 1 in 10 people visiting Chinnini's web site has > the training and inclination to analyse his disastrously flawed > reasoning. > > They are going to go away believing terrible things about the > "dangers" of argyria from colloidal silver, and never even realize > they've been misled. > > And, let me add, nowhere does he mention the evidence that small > particle colloidal silver is excreted by the body. He assumes that > every atom you ever ingest accumulates forever... > > So, there you have it, folks! Some of the *best* evidence in support > of the colloidal silver argyria scare! > > Please send me your comments? I would like to know how you react to > this article and/or to the above site. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [[email protected] ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> Hi Mike and Silver List My brother Dr. M.Paul Farber has been taking silver evryday for the last 5 years.Our silver is 40ppm and .001 microns,it is free of nitrates and nitrites.As of this date he has not turned blue or gray nor has my wife or myself and we each take a maintenance dose of 1 teaspoon per day.As you probably already know the silver is what got him well from his bout with lyme disease.Before he found out about silver through his research,it was th RX drugs that gave him all kinds of side affects including a very large yeast infection,which the silver also got rid of along with lyme disease.If the lady turned gray from silver,then it was probably made from silver salts.I do think it is very important to test each batch of silver to make sure it is at .001 microns. HEALTH IS WEALTH Arnie Farber -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
