What follows is a message sent this morning to a person who just 
unsubscribed from the list and left a couple of messages in my box on 
eskimo explaining why.

Here's my answer, FYI.

Mike D.

------- Forwarded Message Follows -------

When you unsubscribed, I suspect you recieved and answered a couple of
automatic responses the system sends out. This will be a live response
from a real person...

You wrote: 

> Because I feel certain issues have not been satisfactorily
> settled, I don't feel ready to introduce CS to my daughter with
> lupus.  The discussions are way out of my field, and I will leave
> it to others to work out the details.  For now, I just don't have
> time to wade through things which I don't understand.  As a nurse,
> she is concerned about heavy metal poisoning because she has seen
> patients with it.  The retention of the silver certainly seems to
> be uncertain at this point.

Lupus, if truly an autoimmune disease, does not suggest any
*obvious* benefit to using CS, other than to help against
opportunistic infections. There probably aren't any people on the list
who've had much experience one way or the other with it, unfortunately
for you and others who have asked recently.

I've just searched my archive of silver list postings which goes back
to when I first subscribed about a year ago. Lupus is mentioned as a
frequent mis-diagnosis in Lyme sufferers, and generically included in
the list of over "650 diseases and organisms" CS is supposed to be
good against. So at least some people claim it works, but there are no
good scientific studies I'm aware of. 

One person posted a 1935 vintage article from a doctor who used
colloidal gold to treat a patient that had "Lupus vulgaris" of the
face, among a *bunch* of other serious things, and stated that her
condition, including the lupus, was much improved after treatment.
I'll forward that to you if you like.

There is also a lot of speculation recently floating around at the
edges of the mainstream research establishment about MS and other
autoimmune diseases being caused by generally undetected forms of
known bacteria and thus responsive to certain antibiotics. This opens
the door to CS possibly being helpful.

As for heavy metal poisoning, the only evidence I've seen for that
with silver is from the use of large quantities of insoluble salts and
occupational exposure to particulate silver. If your daughter can
verify for herself how much silver must be ingested and in what form
to cause argyria, and compare that with the amounts to be found in
home-made CS, she'll probably discover that they are not in the same
ball park at all. And that doesn't even address the question of
retention and excretion.

This has been a frequent topic of discussion on the list. I've 
satisfied myself that I'm not going to turn blue from the stuff. You
need to decide that for yourselves, however.

And you wrote:

> Since I find it difficult to get any real solid information, have
> never had an answer to my request about lupus, and don't have the
> time to wade through all these discussions I don't understand, I
> believe for the time being I would like to unsubscribe. Perhaps
> when there is more information about retention of silver (heavy
> metal poisoning?), dosage, etc., I will get back on. 

The problem is that there *is* very little solid information of the
kind we're used to. The only really solid information I have to go on
is the testimonials of the people who have become much healthier as a
result of using CS, and who are not also trying to sell me anything.
It is this which makes me want to try to bring some order out of the
chaos of claims and disinformation that surrounds CS.

I can only suggest you determine as best you can whether CS can 
*hurt* you. If you decide that is indeed unlikely, then you may 
choose to try it.

You and your daughter are the archtype of the kind of person I want
the silver-list to be able to help. Check back from time to time. As I
get the web-site built and we gain more understanding, there will be
more and easier answers available. In the meantime, I'm sorry we
weren't of more assistance. I encourage you to continue your research,
and I wish you and your daughter well.

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                       ]
[Speaking only for myself...              ]


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