On 28 Mar 98 at 23:37, Jason wrote:

> Would it be possible to have only the positive electrode in the
> water and the negative wrapped around the outside of the glass
> container, sort of like a capacitor?

In any straight DC system, it wouldn't work, of course. There'd be no 
circuit.

There are two examples I've heard of that would be interesting to 
compare with. One is the CSPro systems, which use a stainless steel 
container to make the CS in. The silver electrode is in the middle. 
They use HVDC.

As long as the polarity is right you'll make CS using this setup. 
Reverse the polarity and you'll make colloidal stainless steel water!

The other example is more relevant. The Motherlode unit is a HVAC 
system that has two operating modes. One has both electrodes in the 
water, like Christian Wechmar was describing the other day. 

The other mode places one electrode *over* the water and one
immersed. I understand that some actual arcing occurs at the
beginning of the process, until the conductivity of the water becomes
high enough.

This looks very much like it forms a capacitor between the dry 
electrode and the surface of the water, with the wet electrode 
donating silver ions from below.

The capacitor will charge up and discharge again each cycle. Half the 
time it will be generating CS particles.

The dry electrode still has to be silver, since at the beginning,
the non-conductive water is part of the dielectric of the capacitor,
and the electric field between the two electrodes is dense enough to
cause breakdown and arcing. Thus it *also* contributes some silver
to the mix. Once the water becomes conductive, the E-field spreads
out and the arcing stops. 

I'll bet the configuration you're thinking of would work, without the 
arcing. The initial configuration would be metal/glass/water/silver, 
and would become metal/glass/water after the water becomes 
conductive. In either case, the silver electrode would be forced to 
donate ionic silver. 

The process may be slow to start. You'd have to experiment with size 
and shape of vessel, voltage level, etc.

Just my thoughts. I have no idea which of the things I'm saying is 
totally wrong. So caveat experimentor!

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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