Hello again, everyone. 

It's time to do some housekeeping this morning.

First, let me thank all of you that communicated with me privately for 
the heads-up that things were still deteriorating. As busy as I am 
right now, I'm barely reading the list once a day and am often behind. 
When I caught up yesterday morning things were fine. <sigh>  

Second, let me remind you that I only moderate the list after the fact. 
*YOU* must be responsible in deciding the quality of content and 
discussion here. The day before yesterday I asked for several 
discussions to be ended. It's normal for a few more posts to come 
through from people who haven't caught up enough to read my [List 
Owner] posts, but it's all too tempting to post just a couple more 
comments... Don't do it!!!

Third, I've asked you all to consciously shorten the duration of your 
Off Topic ramblings. Just decide not to reply the next time...

Just so you know the effects of your behavior on your fellow list 
members, here are some of the comments I just received, edited slightly 
for anonymity and format:

>>>>>

Hi Mike,
I got something like 45 messages on this list today. One or two were 
about cs/eis. I have learned a lot on this list and am grateful to you 
for making this available to me but I cannot handle this volume. I am 
on a few other lists too and am getting swamped with e-mail. I consider 
the messages from this list that are off topic to be similar to spam. 
Dog obedience and whether or not animals can feel pain that goes on for 
days? I really don't need this or have time for it.  

Hi Mike,
The wheel is squeaking again! They will NOT stop -- and on the 
silverlist too -- and people are getting upset. Forgive me for 
complaining so much lately, but REALLY!!! there is not anything 
remotely connected with the 'suffering' of animals and CS!!! Or 
vegetarians versus vegans or omnivores! Its getting unpleasant out 
there.  

Hi Mike,
I really do hate to complain but Wayne's posts about beating animals 
and children are seriously upsetting several people. I'm one of them. I 
know you want this taken off list so I haven't replied to him but I 
find his views personaly upsetting and, much as I'm so grateful to this 
list for what it's taught me, I'm beginning to dread opening mail on it 
because I really don't need this upset at the start of every day.  

>>>>>

"Animal rights" and related topics are easily as sensitive as religion 
and politics. At least once in the past I have been forced to exile a 
person who could *NOT* grasp that, however IMPORTANT the subject was to 
them, it was not appropriate for them to raise the issue all the time. 
We are not going to sort out everyone's disagreements over philosophy, 
methods and definitions. 

All the while this is going on, Lisa's being tentative about a 
legitimate health question re: carpal tunnel, which is completely 
appropriate provided the discussion is handled briefly so as to survey 
the topic and give her other resources to investigate!

Remember, folks, though I exercise the power rarely, NOBODY is so 
valuable to the group that they are immune from removal or other 
discipline for repeated abuse. I should not have to remind anyone a 
third time on these topics. 

Thank you for your patience, everyone.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                        ]
[Speaking only for myself...               ]


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