Jim wrote:
> While I cannot get a herx from cs, I CAN get a herx from grapefruit
> seed extract.  30 drops in a glass of orange juice will bring on a
> slight temp increase and obvious increase in sweating, very mild
> headache comes and goes.  Goes away in a few hours.
> 
> The point being:  gfse must kill bugs my cs is not getting.  Either
> it goes places the cs is not going, or is better at killing some
> bugs. It may be an observation worth remembering for those who have
> experienced bugs which seem very hard to control completely.
> 
> Has anyone else had thoughts on this?

Wow, Jim. I was going to make a report on my recent experiences in 
this regard. Your timing is amazing.

I've been using CS of one sort or another for over two years now. In
that time I have avoided any serious upper respiratory infections and
ended my chronic bronchitis. I have not needed antibiotics at all in
that time, even though I used to average 2 or 3 courses a year. 

I've gotten the occasional cold, but by avoiding the secondary
bacterial infections I could recover quickly and completely as the
virus would run its course. Even my allergies were less severe.

So, I've demonstrated to my satisfaction that CS is good stuff. 

I've been very busy and under some stress for a while. In the crush 
of things I've not been making or using CS very much.

Two weeks ago, like a bolt out of the blue, I had a couple of
*extremely* allergic days. I started with sneezing fits that would
go on for minutes at a time, eyes watering, sinuses exploding, nose
running all over the place, coughing and hacking, the whole maximum 
histimine reaction. 

I'm not exaggerating when I say it was the most extreme reaction of
this sort I can remember. This is not the time of year I have
allergies, either. My biggie is ragweed, which doesn't come out
until late August in our area.

I came out of it all with a deep cough, sore throat, and headache 
that has persisted since then. The cough has made my chest sore and 
raw. My sinuses have continued to be painful. The glands in my neck 
are swollen. The phlegm builds up in my lungs at night and takes a 
while to clear out in the morning. Sleeping has been difficult due to 
the cough.

I've treated symptoms with acetaminophen for the headache and sore 
throat, and OTC cough suppressant, expectorant, decongestant cough 
syrup or capsules to break up the phlegm and let me rest.

By the second day I began taking CS which is probably in the 3-7 ppm
range, several ounces per day, a tablespoon at a time whenever I
thought about it throughout the day. I put the CS in a spray bottle
and would just give myself a few squeezes into the mouth and swish
it around for a minute or two before swallowing.

Whatever I have has not gone away with just the CS. It reminds me a 
*lot* of the viral pneumonia I had three years ago that led me to 
find CS to begin with, though without the bacterial infection on top 
of it that nearly caused my throat to swell shut!

Late last week I bought some grapefruit seed extract at the health 
food store. I tapered off on the CS over the weekend and started 
building up the GfSE to the max recommended 40-some drops per day, 
divided into several doses (to keep the taste tolerable!).

Now, only after 4-5 days I'm starting to see signs of improvement. 
The pain in my throat around the larynx and glands is starting to 
lessen, the cough moderate, the headache diminish. I can feel myself 
just beginning to heal.

I was very concerned that I wasn't getting better, and worried that I 
might have picked up one of those rare bacteria that CS does not work 
against in addition to some virus. So I figured I would just switch 
gears to the GfSE and hit it from another direction.

I *might* have been just as successful doubling and re-doubling my
dosage of CS, or just waiting it out. I'm also drinking more juice
than usual in order to administer the GfSE, and resting more now 
than I did at the beginning.

So anything or nothing might be making me better. There's no way to
know exactly what's going on. You can't do a good clean experiment in
this kind of situation, unfortunately, because there is no way to do
a control.

I'm just glad that I've learned so much from this list. It makes 
sense to try something different when what you're doing does *not* 
seem to be working after you've given it a decent chance. Knowing 
about GfSE gave me another option to try.

One of our members mentioned that the GfSE stopped working for her 
after a few weeks or months, so I plan to keep going until whatever 
I've got is gone, then go back to a maintenance dose of CS. 

I figure it's good to have more than one weapon in the arsenal.

Be well, all!

Mike D.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                       ]
[Speaking only for myself...              ]


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