Protecting and monopolizing that investment must be what justifies the suppression of competitive treatments.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:53 AM Subject: Re: CS>Just passing this on > > > While agreed that "The Pharm" inflates it's prices like no one else on > the planet would dare, the figures below do not define what an active > ingredient is or how much sophisticated processing it takes to go from > those substances to the final product. > Some drugs are fairly easy to manufacture, some are REALLY hard, with quite > low yields and a lot of equipment involved. > > A whole Research department might spend years developing a single drug only > not have it pass muster in those multimillion dollar triple blind tests, or > one that did pass, turn out to have unforseen dangers...and many more years > developing many more compounds that don't make to the tests...and that's > counting all the free research done by universities on the tax payers dime. > > One success may have a hundred failures behind it that cost just as much as > that one success, then they only have a few years to recoup before everyone > starts copying it without paying ANY of the unseen costs. [Generics ] > If the generics are unreasonably high, that's an indictment of the > COMPETITION to the "Pharm" > Remember. Some drugs are easy to make and some aren't. > > It's a gamble, a crap shoot and the house [Pharm] stacks the odds in it's > favor...unbelievable high to be sure, but the > "profit margin" is probably not 2000% to 21,000% on everything. [No > surprise at 1000% maybe ] > > OK All that is on the sellers side of things. > Let's take a peek at the buyers side. > > The question is: How much is all this worth to "you". [That's how much you > pay the "Pharm" or Generic copy cats, cost justified or not.] > Your body is a Pharmacopeia that manufactures and develops itself with > little research, few failures and no triple blind tests rejecting big > chunks of it. > You make copies of it ...for fun. [Hoping for an old age profit] > Materials cost? > > According to uselessknowledge.com: > > "When we total the monetary value of the elements in our bodies and the > value of > the average person's skin, we arrive at a net worth of $4.50! > > "The U.S. Bureau of Chemistry and Soils invested many a hard-earned tax > dollar in > calculating the chemical and mineral composition of the human body, which > breaks > down as follows: > > * 65% Oxygen > * 18% Carbon > * 10% Hydrogen > * 3% Nitrogen > * 1.5% Calcium > * 1% Phosphorous > * 0.35% Potassium > * 0.25% Sulfur > * 0.15% Sodium > * 0.15% Chlorine > * 0.05% Magnesium > * 0.0004% Iron > * 0.00004% Iodine > > "Additionally, it was discovered that our bodies contain trace quantities of > fluorine, silicon, manganese, zinc, copper, aluminum, and arsenic. > Together, all > of the above amounts to less than one dollar! > > "Our most valuable asset is our skin, which the Japanese invested their > time and > money in measuring. The method the Imperial State Institute for Nutrition at > Tokyo developed for measuring the amount of a person's skin is to take a naked > person, and to apply a strong, thin paper to every surface of his body. > After the > paper dries, they carefully remove it, cut it into small pieces, and > painstakingly total the person's measurements. Cut and dried, the average > person > is the proud owner of fourteen to eighteen square feet of skin, with the > variables in this figure being height, weight, and breast size. Basing the > skin's > value on the selling price of cowhide, which is approximately $.25 per square > foot, the value of an average person's skin is about $3.50." > > > "Profit margin"? Incalculable. > You set the price anywhere you like, from a suicidal zero to absolutely > priceless, regardless of what anyone else might think you are worth... with > an average materials fair market value of around four dollars and fifty > cents ....and every ounce of it a "byproduct of living". > Now that's what I call "cornering the market" by BEING the market. > The "Pharm" doesn't have enough competitors and those it does have may be > even less scrupulous. > "You" have NO competitors and the best commerce protection that ideology > can buy. > > It's the only commodity that can be endlessly manufactured till the store > is STUFFED with surplus no one but a friend or relative wants decorating > their own house and still be considered worth anything at all. > Not sure where those that DON'T place ANY value on human life fit it, but > *so far*, they don't have the ability to increase it by making it rare > despite all the efforts being applied to that endeavor. > But they have, in fact, managed to increase how much we'll pay to keep it > as it is ....with hired armored scales patrolling the party balloon against > rogue pins. > > While it may not be "right", this is how it is: > The Pharm and the Copy Cats are taking advantage of the inflated negative > value that the consumer places on the alternative. > If you think you are priceless and believe that buying the product > maintains that value, they get to agree with you with your full consent. > What "we the priceless" need is more people to haggle over the value we > place on ourselves, in essence, cheaper whores on more corners to satisfy > our desires [to stay alive] so the price of [so to speak] "screwing around" > on this planet, longer, will go down. > or > Get the *state* to set that price by hiring and controlling the "pimps and > hookers" we desire, for us. > ["Desire" carries no connotations of right or wrong, only acceptable or > unacceptable consequence. ] > or > Forget about corners all together and please ourselves as best we can. > [The pimps and hookers will starve] > > Trading one set of hookers and pimps for another set even less scrupulous, > doesn't quite get the job done. [A goodly chunk of the "alt" game...same > game, fewer rules. ] > What WILL get the job done [but won't ever happen ] is for people to own > their own desires and decide when being dead a little sooner [vs later ] is > better than being a slave to that desire in the mean-time. > > Put another way: Only those who are willing to die, can afford to live free. > Everyone else is a slave. [Again: No connotations of right or wrong, only > acceptable or unacceptable consequence...sheer personal opinion] > In between the two extremes is: How hard are we willing to be whipped > before we run away, as the master we made tells us we'll starve if we > do? Does running to a different master accomplish anything? > It comes down to *faith in self * with the inescapable inevitable.... > against..... *faith in saviours* selling hope of avoiding the inevitable > for a while longer...buying more time on credit with the interest rate set > by the speculating borrower. > Just who is it that builds that fence, how high, to climb?? > What bank ever "made" you borrow anything? > > Any bank will, of course, try to convince you that you -should- borrow. > > On that note: Setting up Government run health care is a whole lot like > setting up the "Fed" to control the price of unbacked money by artificially > controlling the interest rate. > Is that cumbersome and inefficient? Sure. > Does it work? It smooths out the bumps on the road to ruin so you can > drive longer. > Hopefully, long enough to learn to fly. > > Not a great way to be driving in this race to the outhouse, but, beats > "crash and burn" at turn three...certain DNF poopy pants. > The question is then: Do you want a "pit crew" or the D.O.T to change your > tires? > > Could just quit racing and enjoy the summer scenery on foot for as long as > the leaves stay green. [You ....worthless Bum. No plasma TV with a high > cost extended warrantee for you, Dude.....or monthly payments to have a > heart attack over.] > > Where are we racing "to"? [Hummmm] > > Ode > > > At 08:36 AM 8/30/2007 -0400, you wrote: > > >I just received this information via email and figured it is imortant for > >people to know about this. Faith > > > > > >Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:16 AM > >Subject: Drug costs > > > > > >? This is true: verified at: > > > >?http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/generic.asp ?You can also go to this > > > >website and get a comparison chart for different drugs at different > > > >places...;0) ? > > > >? > > > >WalMart announced it is starting a new policy where all generic drugs > > will > > > >be sold for $4.00 per prescription in many states. > > > >? > > > >COSTCO! read this... > > > > > > > >Let's hear it for Costco!! (This is just mind-boggling!) Make sure > > you read > > > >all the way past the list of the drugs. The woman that signed below is a > > > >Budget Analyst out of federal Washington , DC offices. > > > > > > > > > > > >Did you ever wonder how much it costs a drug company for the active > > > >ingredient in prescription medications? Some people think it must cost a > > > >lot , since many drugs sell for more than $2.00 per tablet. We did a > > search > > > >of offshore chemical synthesizers that supply the active ingredients > > found > > > >in drugs approved by the FDA. As we have revealed in past issues of Life > > > >Extension, a significant percentage of drugs sold in the United States > > > >contain active ingredients made in other countries. In our independent > > > >investigation of how much profit drug companies really make, we obtained > > > >the actual price of active ingredients used in some of the most popular > > > >drugs sold in America > > > > > > > > > > > >The data below speaks for itself. > > > > > > > > > > > >Celebrex: 100 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $130.27 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $ 0.60 > > > >Percent markup: 21,712% > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Claritin: 1 0 mg > > > >Consumer Price (100 tablets): $215.17 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $0.71 > > > >Percent markup: 30,306% > > > > > > > > > > > >Keflex: 250 mg > > > >Consumer Price (100 tablets): $157.39 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $1.88 > > > >Percent markup: 8,372% > > > > > > > > > > > >Lipitor: 20 mg > > > >Consumer Price (100 tablets): $272.37 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $5.80 > > > >Percent markup: 4,696% > > > > > > > > > > > >Norvasc: 10 mg Cost of general active ingredients: $0.14 > > > >Percent markup: 134,493% > > > > > > > > > > > >Paxil: 20 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $220.27 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $7.60 > > > >Percent markup: 2,898% > > > > > > > > > > > >Prevacid: 30 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $44.77 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $1.01 > > > >Percent markup: 34,136% > > > ; > > > > > > > > >Prilosec : 20 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $360.97 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients $0.52 > > > >Percent markup: 69,417% > > > > > > > > > > > >Prozac: 20 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets) : $247.47 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $0.11 > > > >Percent markup: 224,973% > > > > > > > > > > > >Tenormin: 50 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $104.47 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $0.13 > > > >Percent markup: 80,362% > > > > > > > > > > > >Vasotec: 10 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $102.37 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $0.20 > > > >Percent markup: 51,185% > > > > > > > > > > > >Xanax: 1 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets) : $136.79 > > > >Cost of general active in gredients: $0.024 > > > >Percent markup: 569,958% > > > > > > > > > > > >Zestril: 20 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets) $89.89 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients $3.20 > > > >Percent markup: 2,809 > > > > > > > > > > > >Zithromax: 600 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $1,482.19 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $18.78 > > > >Percent markup: 7,892% > > > > > > > > > > > >Zocor: /B 40 mg > > > >Consumer price (100 tablets): $350.27 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $8.63 > > > >Percent markup: 4,059% > > > > > > > > > > > >Zoloft: 50 mg > > > >Consumer price: $206.87 > > > >Cost of general active ingredients: $1.75 > > > >Percent markup: 11,821% > > > > > > > > > > > >Since the cost of prescription drugs is so outrageous, I thought everyone > > > >should know about this. Please read the following and pass it on. It pays > > > >to shop around. This helps to solve the mystery as to why they can afford > > > >to put a Walgreen's on every corner On Monday night, Steve Wilson, an > > > >investigative reporter for Channel 7 News in Detroit , did a story on > > > >generic drug price gouging by pharmacies. He found in his investigation, > > > >that some of these generic drugs were marked up as much as 3,000% or > > more. > > > >Yes, that's not a typo.....three thousand percent! So often, we blame the > > > >drug companies for the high cost of drugs, and usually rightfully so. But > > > >in this case, the fault clearly lies with the pharmacies themselves. For > > > >example, if you had to buy a prescription drug, and bought the name > > brand, > > > >you might pay $100 for 100 pills. The pharmacist might tell you that > > if you > > > >get the generic equivalent, they would only cost $80, making you > > think you > > > >are "saving" $20 . What the pharmacist is not telling you is that > > those 100 > > > >generic pills may have only cost him $10! > > > > > > > > > > > >At the end of the report, one of the anchors asked Mr. Wilson whether or > > > >not there were any pharmacies that did not adhere to this practice, > > and he > > > >said that Costco consistently charged little over their cost for the > > > >generic drugs > > > > > > > > > > > >I went to the Costco site, where you can look up any drug, and get its > > > >online price. It says that the in-store prices are consistent with the > > > >online prices. I was appalled. Just to give you one example from my own > > > >experience, I had to use the drug, Compazine, which helps prevent > > nausea in > > > >chemo patients. > > > > > > > > > > > >I used the generic equivalent, which cost $54.99 for 60 pills at CVS. I > > > >checked the price at Costco, and I could have bought 10 0 pills for > > $19.89. > > > >For 145 of my pain pills, I paid $72.57. I could have got 150 at > > Costco for > > > >$28.08. > > > > > > > > > > > >I would like to mention, that although Costco is a "membership" type > > store, > > > >you do NOT have to be a member to buy prescriptions there, as it is a > > > >federally regulated substance. You just tell them at the door that > > you wish > > > >to use the pharmacy, and they will let you in. (this is true) > > > > > > > > > > > >I went there this past Thursday and asked them. 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