Okay, I am officially taking umbrage at the insistence of some poor dears here that medicine in particular and biology in general can really be called science.

Physics... that's science in theory, sometimes in practice
Chemistry...that is science in both ways
Geology....yes, on both counts
Engineering, a resounding YES, on both counts and particularly because it is so very pratical.

Biology... now there you have WAY too many variables to control, so it can hardly be called a true science Medicine.... no way, it is half lies (even learned drs say only half of what they teach is true, but they don't know which half) and just TRY making up an experiment that can't be twisted into your own idea of what you want to see. Some medical researchers work very hard and come up with some good ideas, try them out and come to some reasonable conclusions, then test it in people, and sometimes it works.

Don't even talk about the "social sciences"- they may be valuable and helpful, but they are not sciences in the true sense of the word.

I just do not understand why people do not like scientists. It is those who gave us so many labor saving devices, so we woman can, as an entire gender, thank them for that. Our grandmothers did not have time for much but doing drudgery to take care of families. An that includes making soap to wash the clothes in iron tubs in the backyards once a week.

I have heard such derisory vague comments before, and must admit being puzzled. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

Kathryn

On Sep 5, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Tad Winiecki wrote:


Maybe I missed it but did you ever come out and explain your fertilizer and how you chelate it, Wayne? I personally use Fish Emulsion Fertilizer, compost, and various animal manures. Some people believe in aerating the animal manures to break them down into more useful compounds, but I lack the equipment. I trust the soil organisms to break them down for me.:-) Therefore I don't poison them. I can't say I get your Paul Bunyan-esque yields or plant size, but manage to grow more than we can eat, and try to share with others.

Science becomes a god to many that blinds them to simple truth. Once I was on a national daylily forum and took compassion on someone expressing a health problem and suggested CS for it. I quess I should have sent a private email because a "Scientist" on the list emailed me and lambasted me for giving unfounded health advice. I got into a long discussion with him about silver and herbs in medicine and hundreds or even thousands of years of human experience meant nothing to him scientifically.

When I was in my 20's I had chronic bursitis and went to a doctor and was told they didn't know what caused it but I could take steroids or painkillers. I took aspirin daily and suffered with the effects on my stomach during my entire first pregnancy. Then I got a problem while nursing the baby where I couldn't lift my thumbs and had pain in my thumbs and wrists. I went to the doctor- they didn't know what caused it but I could take steroids or have surgery. Fortunately a kind friend gave me Adelle Davis' book "Let's Have Healthy Children" and I learned you need fat to absorb calcium, I started drinking 2-3 quarts of whole milk a day, and not only the wrist problem but also the bursitis problem disappeared! This started me on a lifelong devotion to alternative medicine. At least the doctors were honest that they were totally ignorant of nutrition- natural medicine. The sad part is that 20 years later nursing mothers I met were still being told the same thing about their sore wrists, and I met one mother with the scars on her wrists from the surgery!

Nancy
My father was a windbreaker, my mother was a turtleneck, but I am a sweater.<drip>


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