--On 6 September 2007 17:16:45 -0400 Simon Jester <[email protected]> wrote:
Now, if you said that it is healthier *for* *you* to eat only vegetarian - well, I'd be more than happy to take you at your word. I'm certainly not saying that some people cannot thrive on a vegatarian diet, because some can. Sadly, this doesn't hold true for everyone - or even most people.
This last point I am well aware of, and it is broadcast particularly by objectors to vegetarianism. It is pure conjecture, or interpreted upon wholly flawed or inappropriate studies.
Well , I think I have a valid point here: you may have studied the papers on this. But I'm sure they didn't look at the awful junk food diet of 'vegetarians', who basically eat poorly from cans , processed snacks, poisonous soy products..hydrogentaed polyunsaturated oils... And from my experience this was and still is most vegetarians/converts. Look up some recipes on the net. It's hard to find one that isn't a compromise. SO, I say there's nothing to learn from the bulk of the existing comparative studies.
I do agree that Eskimos find it hard or impossible to adapt physiologically to a vegetarian diet, because certain ammino acids are essential to them in the diet, and so it is said. I I do comprehend the body's readiness to produce. However, not many Inuits bringing up their children up as vegetarian, none that I know of yet, none to be found on the internet which would shed more light on the subject. In fact, all vegetables and grains contain all eight of the 'essential' amino acids (as well as the 12 other nonessential ones). The foods with the most nutrients per calorie are vegetables and beans. Vegetables are also very rich in protein and calcium. Most vegetables have more protein per calorie than meat and more calcium per calorie than milk. Nobody can consume too little protein by eating less animal products and substituting vegetables, beans, nuts, and seeds.
I don't accept the theories linking blood-types genetic ancestral roots. In fact, I don't accept genetic conclusions or theories per se: it's a huge scam, it's false science. Genes change in their environment. We are not genetically determined: genetic inheritance is the bodily communication of 'adaption' through generations. Random Mutation is wholly misleading. Random is meaningless. All things have a prior cause. It is not a one way expression of genes. Genes are expressions too.
Blood types can change according to acidity in an individual and they have changed through generations according to what we eat, and bio availability of certain minerals.
Problems with research when it is largely conjectural e.g. (He) argued that, far from being essential, foods of plant origin may even be "optional extras". His evidence was a claim that the migrant Mongol people of the Eurasian Steppes "continue to live long, physically active lives on a diet of horse milk, blood and meat. They have never eaten fruit and vegetables, as no respectable Mongolian horseman wishes to be tied to the ground, tending crops."
Oh Yes, the Mongols built their yurts out of bones, too I suppose. And When they saw Almond and Walnut trees, in the foothills, they turned their noses up at them. Because Mongols, all tribes united under Ghengis Khan with such difficulty, were a uniform bunch. Mongols never traded amongst tribes for crops, or with other civilisations. Genghis Khan refused noodles in his Peking Court.
Contrary to popular belief, the traditional Inuit diet is not purely carnivorous, but makes use of what vegetation is available, both directly and in the stomachs of the animals who are eaten. It is, however, still very high in animal flesh and very low in fruit and vegetables, which leads to an increased incidence of esophageal cancer (2 to 3 times more common in Inuit men and 5 to 7 times more common in Inuit women), stomach cancer (the rates of this cancer have declined throughout the world except among the Inuit), colon cancer, and gall bladder and biliary cancer. [See Acta Oncologia, Volume 35, No. 5, 1996, which deals entirely with cancers among the circumpolar Inuit.]
The claims about Mongol horsemen notwithstanding, all but one population of indigenous peoples studied to date have derived much, if not most of their energy from foods of plant origin (Kuhnlein and Turner, 1991).
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