Thank you so much for this information. I wanted to be able to answer some questions and this will help.
Dianne ----- Original Message ----- From: Ode Coyote<mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net> To: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>silver production: ionic vs. colloidal What we are making is termed "EIS" [electricially isolated silver ] as an attempt to avoid confusion. EIS is a MIXTURE of both "dissolved" ionic and "suspended colloidal" particulate silver. Every generator that uses electricity and water makes Ionic Silver... and nothing but. There are no exceptions. But, some portion of that Ionic silver will convert into a particulate colloid AFTER it is made, the size of which mostly depend on process control and water purity. Small particles don't display a color, but do show up in a visible light laser beam. It may also contain a colloid portion of particles that are too small to re-transmit visible wavelengths of light. If many those particles agglomerate into larger particles, that's when they display a yellow, violet, green or red color depending on how large. The majority portion of "EIS" is generally ionic......silver, dissolved in the water vs suspended..... the only difference being that ionic silver lacks an electron an has an Ionic charge, making each incomplete atom strongly repel the others. It's silver "retention" that causes Agyria, generally due to an abnormally functioning metallo protein system in the body and *simply too much silver intake over too short a period of time* It is very rare at ANY intake rate and virtually impossible at 20 PPM and under using silver in any form, because... at and under 20 PPM the water intake rate will surely kill you before you can accumulate too much silver over any period of time. It is difficult to make EIS at over 20-30 PPM that looks like you'd want to drink it and the Ionic portion will never exceed 30 PPM for long...will convert to colloid...and that colloid will usually display a prominent and distinct color from a larger particle size due to agglomeration [but not always ] Color has nothing, at all, to do with PPM. It can be made yellow at 5 PPM or colorless at 25. [and even more ] "Colorless" EIS [as distinguished from "clear" ] appears to be clear in indirect light, but shows the colloid portion under direct light such as the sun , a strong flashlight or a laser light. [Tyndall effect] It can be made colorless up to 100 PPM but is very unlikely to be stable and not develop a color later at over 30 PPM. The stronger it's made, the less likely it will stay colorless, depending on water purity and other factors such as current density [affecting local zone ion saturation limits] with an average high threshold of stability of around 20-25 PPM. If the EIS colloid portion does agglomerate into those larger particles, a touch of Hydrogen Peroxide will generally break them back up into the smaller colorless variety...even at 100 PPM. The density of the particles in the water will then usually make it look light grey in direct sunlight and show a very heavy thick laser beam. [It may still appear "clear" in indirect light but look "milky" in direct light. ] Ions have a *solubility limit* in water that, when exceeded, will turn most of those excess Ions into colloidal particles over some period of time. The sizes of all the particles are never just one size, they cover ranges of sizes with same ranges dominant...so, even if it's red, there are still small colorless particles in there, and Ions. If the particles are too big to make it through the bodies osmosis filters [membranes ], they can't get stuck, because they never made into a place to get stuck in. [They'll pass right on through, mostly doing nothing, for -or- to you. ] The colloidal particles consist of differing concentrations and ratios of pure metallic silver, silver hydroxide and silver oxides. If the majority is metallic silver, the water may tend to "reflect" room colors, vs emit a complementary color, mostly yellow and less often green, but will lose that apparent tint under full spectrum light. Ode At 10:07 AM 10/20/2007 -0400, you wrote: >I had given my daughter some cs and she was asking why it was clear >because I guess my son in law googled it and read the following: > >Companies that sell ionic silver claim that their product is "true >colloidal silver" in an attempt to confuse the buyer. Do not be fooled. If >the product is clear, then it is ionic silver, not a true silver colloid. >Colloidal particles, when present in sufficient concentration, absorb >visible light causing the colloid to exhibit an "apparent color". The >apparent color is the complement of the absorbed wavelength. Silver ions >do not absorb visible light and therefore appear as clear colorless liquids. > >My silver I am producing with the silverpuppy is clear. Grant you I am >usually only producing 5ppm. I have some on now that I intend to go to >10ppm so I can do the eye treatment. I told my daughter that I thought it >had to be higher ppm's to show yellow. Am I right? I also was under the >impression that ionic silver is the culprit causing argyria. I could well >have this all mixed up but would like to know more. > >Dianne > > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1082 - Release Date: >10/20/2007 2:59 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - Release Date: 10/21/2007 3:09 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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