Hello Wayne.

Re Stan Jones. I'm not assuming or speculating anything. He said himself that he made it that way. I quote him here...

"To answer your questions:
>
> "1) I use a generator with three nine-volt batteries connected in
> series (27 volts D.C.);
>
> "2) I started taking colloidal silver in Seattle where the tap water
> is generally free from minerals. I added a few drops of salt water to
> improve the conductivity. When I moved to Montana 1998, I continued to
> use tap water but here it is full of minerals. I never had it tested.
>
> "3) I made my solution in an eight ounce paper cup, conducting the
> current for one hour. I then added one half of this solution to two
> gallons of drinking water that I kept in my refrigerator. I have no
> idea what the PPM of this solution was.

End of quote.

You can read more of it on Ode's website http://silverpuppy.com/rant.html but I cant remember where I read the original interview. But it wasn't the first time I'd read about this method. In fact you can still find remnants of it on the net. Read the details of the generator offered by this clown... http://www.macrobiotic.org/csgenerator1.html He's including 'electrolyte tablets' in the kit.

I'll answer your other questions below.



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Subject:
Re: CS>'3 nines' equals about 764 ppm in ten minutes.
From:
Wayne Fugitt <[email protected]>
Date:
Sun, 23 Dec 2007 09:34:04 -0600
To:
[email protected]

To:
[email protected]


Morning David,

>> At 07:11 AM 12/23/2007, you wrote:

I've tried to re-create the 'old method' of making Colloidal Silver with a glass of tap water, a pinch of salt, and 3 x 9v batteries with no current control.


  I wonder where you found that as the "Old Method" ?

This was the method used by Stan Jones, (and perhaps by the new blue man, Paul Karosan) You are making wild assumptions, speculating, and confusing the ones that might not be confused already.


See above re Stan Jones. Re Paul Karosan I said 'perhaps' he made it that way, but if he started 14 years ago theres a good chance I'm not far wrong. And I dont think I'm confusing anyone by clearly explaining what I did.


No one with a slight knowledge, or a .1 brain used the method that Stan Jones used.


Stan Jones did. Who knows who else did the same. The method must have been quite widely circulated (and bastardised).


>> First, Tap water, the a pinch of salt.
>> A pinch of salt is no unit of measure. Depending on how much work a man has done in his life, the thumb and forefinger will be larger and the pinch will be larger.


It doesn't really matter if its a few grains or a pinch of salt in tap water. You still wind up with a very conductive solution.


After 60 MINUTES of brewing time I observed the anode. It was visibly VERY reduced. I estimated it had lost half its volume. So in one hour, 1150 milligrams of silver had been dissolved in just 250 mls of water.
This equates to 4600 ppm.

Only one little question,............ Just what were you trying to prove ?

Isn't it obvious? If you used the 'old method' you create CS thats extremely strong. Much stronger than the users may have realised.

>>So any assumption that this old method makes about 1 ppm per minute is >>completely wrong by a factor of about 70.
It appears to me, you are the only one assuming anything.
Again........ tell me where you got the instructions for "The Old method".


I've read the 1 minute = 1 ppm rule on numerous occassions - usually taken completely out of context with no understanding of the variables. But 'people' read it and believe it. Regarding 'Where I got the method' I've partially answered that but ask Mike Devour how common he thinks this method might have been.


You'll also note that the calculations above are exclusively limited to the milligrams of pure silver that was actually dissolved. I have no idea what that would equate to in ppms of silver chloride.

While you may be a chemist, a scientist, an engineer, and a PhD, like my scientist friend, he sometimes stumbles, falls, and breaks a leg.......... tripping over the real facts.


I'm none of those things but its hardly rocket surgery is it? And when I dont know something, I say so.


Tap water:  324ppm / 660uS
Pinch of salt added:  990ppm / 1950uS
After 30 minutes: 1330ppm / 2650uS
After 60mins: 1820ppm / 3450uS.

   You should give that away to all your enemies.  <grin>


Want some? Actually I intend to use it to see if I can induce a small patch of 'externally acquired' argyria by applying it daily to the pale skin of my forearm. I'll keep you posted.


Actually, I was surprised to see the conductivity increase. I expected it to remain virtually stable with dissolved silver combining with impurities to form non conductive particles.

   You mean you thought you would reach a  "Saturated Solution" ?


It was certainly saturated, but no that's not what I meant. What I meant was that a meter can only detect the conductive ionic silver. I did not expect the ionic silver measurement to increase. I expected the silver and impurities would immeadiately create 'non conductive' colloidal particles until it reached saturation and then dropped out completely.



And....... a Transformer that puts out DC ? The only one in the world I guess.
Out of many thousands, I have never seen one that did.


Would you have preferred I called it an Adaptor? ' It says 24v DC on the label. (My meter said was actually 29V DC). Splitting hairs over things like this just confuses people Wayne.


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>>>I have two friends that are both PhD's in Horticulture. They disagree a lot, even in the field of their study. One calls the other, a >>Mad Scientists. Maybe some consider that a higher level degree, or a pat on the back. I think I get the point of your experiment.

Do you? I'm trying to show what happens when people get bad information, execute the process badly, and wind up with a concoction they know nothing about, then drink it. It sounds like you think the point of my experiment was to inflate my own ego.

David