Hi
  My son Byron has got back to me about what I have
sent him to do with
 CS and how good it is or rather that he does not feel
it is what
 everyone thinks itis
  I haven't given him everything yet because there is
a lot and I know
 he only has so much time
  This email seems to be more directed to Marshall
   
  Byron's email
   
  Unfortunately I am so busy I barely get time to
research this stuff
 properly.

I would be happy if you forwarded this email on to
Marshall as a
 response to what he responded to.

First off. He was right about the term I used "Heavy
Metals" the
 chemistry sites I visited called heavy metals too
ambiguous a term to be
 useful. Silver is listed as a Transition Metal in
wikipedia. I don't know
 if there is a difference between Transition and
Transitional as Marshall
 termed it. I assume not.

So I will go on to review the rest of his comments.

I see so much misinformation, as you know, and I
struggle to get to
 "correct" information like we all do. I am a
layperson but quite
 persistent.

Here are the things that concern me so far about
Silver as in all its
 incarnations for now.

The claim of curing 650 different diseases.
The difficulty finding a medical institution that
readily acknowledges
 it.
The proliferation of it on the internet and in MLM
networks
The pharmaceutical companies, FDA and FTC don't want
you to know about
 it. (Conspiracy Theory)
Some legitimate organizations offering warnings.

A bit of research I came up with.

Against:

Marshall Mentions that Anecdotal evidence is a valid
source of
 information. See point # 4. Point #5 also. These
don't indicate to me that
 Colloidal Silver is bad, but I am looking for
evidence to prove that
 ingesting it has any benefit since there may be a
risk involved. Anecdotal
 evidence doesn't tell me accurate about the
risk/reward potential.

http://chronicle.com/free/v49/i21/21b02001.htm

  
http://dermatology.cdlib.org/111/case_reports/argyria/wadhera.html

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html

"claims of colloidal silver's antimicrobial potency
are misleading and
 there is no place for it as an antiseptic."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15114827?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

"High concentrations of colloidal silver kill many
bacteria in vitro
 (that is, under laboratory conditions, rather than in
the human body) and
 the topical (or external use) of colloidal silver to
kill microbes is
 well established. Though colloidal silver was a
prescribed treatment in
 the U.S. Navy's corpsman's manual until 1973, the use
of colloidal
 silver as an ingested medication remains
controversial."
http://www.cassiopedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Colloidal_silver

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/alerts/silver/


Dr Robert Becker advocates Reverse Speech?
http://educate-yourself.org/products/index.shtml#csbook1



Neutral info:

http://www.aapspharmaceutica.com/search/view.asp?ID=60689

Silver Nanoparticles
http://www.mrs.org/s_mrs/bin.asp?CID=1655&DID=50033&DOC=FILE.PDF
I am taking this somewhat out of context. But since
Marshall used
 Nanobiotechnology to emphasis his point about Silver
working on HIV. I think
 that is a stretch to compare it to EIS or home brewed
CS.
There would be some very specific methods for creating
nanoparticles as
 they mention.
"We found that both the citrate concentration and the
reaction
 temperature play an important role in the formation
of the silver nanorods."
I am not sure how close silver nanorods and silver
nanoparticles
 relate.

For:

This site seems to present even minded and I would
willingly review
 their sources for information and any evidence to
support it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17468052?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Perhaps Marshall could point to the section of this
site that states
 clearly the effect of Silver and HIV-1. Or any
relationship between this
 and a homemade CS or EIS formula.
http://www.jnanobiotechnology.com/content/3/1/6#IDAQP2MK


I look forward to debating this with Marshall.

So here are some counter points to the things he
noticed in my email.

1) Tylenol is safe.  I will admit wholeheartedly that
there are risks
 with tylenol. And the risks, as far as I know, are as
he stated.
 However, he is using scientific evidence to state
that it is not safe. I can
 come up with hundreds of anecdotal accounts,
including my mother who has
 used tylenol for almost 3 decades, that have had no
known adverse
 effects. She and I know that tylenol helps improve
life by removing pain,
 this is also established in scientific proof. Still
neither of us would
 want to use it any 
more than we have to, knowing that there are risks
involved. I would
 want to be extra sure of the risks involved with
Silver. And measure that
 against the benefits to determine whether it is worth
it or not. I do
 agree that testing does not need to cost millions of
dollars though.
 But it needs to at least be verifiable by other non
-interested parties. 

2) Tap Water making millions of  dollars.  My point
here is that
  Pharmaceutical companies are not the only companies
in the world making lots
 of money. A corporation can make millions of dollars
literally selling
 tap water. If 1% of the population of the US and
Canada bought a CS
 machine for roughly $100. That is 40,000,000 million
dollars. Not to
 mention those who haven't the time or inclination and
would rather buy it
 pre-bottled. There is money everywhere leading us
astray.

3) Red Herring. While this may be true. I think it is
important to note
 that there is a seductive quality to thinking that
you know "the
 truth" and that the evil
corporations/government/pharmaceutical companies
 are trying to pull one by us.  I  am not saying that
I trust these
 organizations. But  I think we  need to look
somewhere in the middle and not
 continue using them as a scare tactic.

4) Silver is a Heavy Metal and accumulates in the body
over time.  OK
 so we have established that I am not a chemist. but
do we know whether
 silver particles accumulate in the body over time? I
think some of the
 research above state that it does. I am still looking
into this.

5) Regarding wonder drugs. I really don't see that
there is a something
 for nothing category even with penicillin. Penicillin
has risks, and
 it must be watched for their side effects as well as
how they interact
 with other drugs etc.. So with CS / EIS. what are the
risks. Everybody
 is different. What are the risks to me and my family
vs. the potential
 benefits. Stating that these products cure over 650
diseases with no
 side effects makes me pause for thought. 

6) Marshall wrote "What constitutes proof. For most of
us, going years
 without getting a cold or the flu, or a herpes
outbreak is proof
 enough." If this is true, than this is a monumental
discovery! Why wouldn't
 this come out? I don't know of any effective
treatment for cold sores.
 No company is currently getting any money from me
when I get an
 outbreak. So even a properly marketed version could
earn a return. Just some
 clinical trials is all I am asking. Show me that it
is not the power of
 suggestion. 
Substitute a bottle with ordinary a tap water and
don't tell the
 participant. That is all I want to see.

7) Marshall wrote "There are lots of tests and proof. 
I have had UT
 run tests on it and verified it is a broad spectrum
antibiotic."
 Wonderful. Do you have the results. Has any other lab
verified this results
 with an independent study?



If it is an old technology that worked back then, why
did anyone need
 to look into developing penicillin. If it is new, do
we really know this
 product enough?


I am not decidedly against CS / EIS although this
email is pretty one
 sided. I figure I am up against someone who can
competently set me
 right.

Marshall set me right on these things. Or lead me to
some places that
 can clear my thinking. otherwise I will wait until I
get a third degree
 burn to use silver.



Sincerely
Byron

  Selorme
Shavasana Yoga Centre
905-648-6614
334 Aberdeen Ave
Hamilton, Ontario L8P 2R5
www.shavasana.com 
  



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