-----Original Message----- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 2:30 PM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CS>The DougPlus Machine
Dear Peter: >> Jim, can you describe to me or show me in pictures what the inside of the wooden enclosures of your DougPlus Machine looks like. The wooden structure on each side of Carol contains a piece of metal to act as a capacitor plate to couple the Doug MacLean derived Lyme frequencies into and through the body. In the original units this was aluminum window screen and now is a ¼ inch hardware cloth, sandwiched between layers of Styrofoam. The size of the plate is about 2 by 3 feet. The purpose of the Styrofoam and wood structure is to provide insulation from the extremely high voltage that can be present on the plates. The voltages can be as high as 10,000 volts and it is important to prevent someone from touching the plates. The wooden structure also contains a 100 to 1 step up transformer that can be driven by a low voltage audio amplifier. All dangerous high voltages are safely contained within the wooden box. >> What do the capacitor plates look like and how do they differ from using a coil, in terms of their effects? This is a picture of the typical home made Doug Coil Machine. The DougPlus is very much simpler to use. http://meissnerresearch.com/info/home-made-doug-coil-machine Hopefully the plates will be just as effective as or more effective than the coil. We only have data on a few people, but so far it looks good. One person has reported that his Doug Coil Machine no longer gives him a herx reaction but the DougPlus is having some positive effects. Another person has a PERL that has stopped being effective but the DougPlus is providing good results. >> I am interested in knowing more about the random frequency generator. The random frequency generator is a digital shift register that creates a random output frequency. This type of a device is used to test speaker systems and room acoustics. In that application it is referred to as a pink noise generator as compared to a white noise generator which has a constant output power over the frequency range. Take a look at the link and some of the description there. http://meissnerresearch.com/info/random-frequency-generator This device generates ALL frequencies at a random rate. Look at the spectrum analyzer display. >> How does this freq. generator accomplish the job without pausing for a time or sweeping? We experimented with sweeping and found it to be too complicated for the user as compared to the random frequency generator. It requires a high level of know how to set up the sweep parameters. You must pick the start and end frequencies, sweep speed or frequency steps and dwell time. If you sweep too wide a frequency there may not be enough dwell time at the critical frequencies to have an effect on the Lyme spirochetes. Also if you sweep too fast, you have the same problem. For those who have this know how there is an optional input for external generators. >> How can one be sure that they are hitting the right frequencies for Lyme or co-infections for a long enough period of time to be effective? >> Also, how do you know what you are going after...ie Borrelia....or Bartonella...or Babesia....or Erlichia...etc? >> Don't you need to control your program to avoid hitting the MORs (mortal oscillatory rates) of all pathogens within the generator's freq. range in any given session? >> I can't imagine how this freq. generator would work selectively or avoid giving someone a massive herx if they had several different infections concurrently. All of these questions are interesting and I do not have the answers. I will answer this indirectly. I can sit between these plates at full power for over 30 minutes and feel no effects except possible a boost in energy. I have done this many times. Several others have done so also. This covers several years. So I would question the theories proposed by some that there are MORs and the danger of hitting the wrong frequencies. I feel that there is much misinformation on the subject of rife. Royal Rife did some fabulous work, but all of that is lost without his special microscope. There are many vendors selling rife machines and most are well meaning, but I wonder about their claims for these frequencies. The DougPlus covers the Rife-Crane frequencies of 100 to 2500 Hz and the Consolidated Frequency list covers hundreds of diseases that are reportedly cured by these frequencies. Theoretically if these frequencies are valid, then the DougPlus may have some additional uses. >> Am I right in assuming that you would start with a very short-duration session time, treating all pathogens that a person has (knowingly or unknowingly) in that session >> and gradually ramp up the session times as the person can tolerate more? Please fill me in? As indicated above, someone who is healthy and does not have Lyme will experience little or no effects. On the other hand, Carol would have serious reactions in just seconds even at the low power setting. As you have guessed, the trick is to have very short duration session and slowly work up to longer sessions depending on the severity of the Herx reactions. I am told that the Doug Coil Machine is very powerful and usually puts the user in bed for two or three weeks. Carol could not afford to miss work, so she timed the session in such a way so she would be able to go to work the next day. Sometimes she would treat every other day. >> You mention also a much faster recovery time for your research subject compared to the Standard Doug Coil. Can you speculate why this would have occurred? My guess is that the Doug Coil Machine is too powerful and not only kills the spirochets, but also has a negative effect on the body and the immune system. Some of the 2 or 3 weeks in bed is spent recovering from the abuse on the body. You cannot kill the spirochetes deader than dead, so twice as much power does not kill them twice as dead. If you treat every day with the DougPlus, and every 14 days with the Doug Coil Machine, it might take 14 times longer. Again, this is just my guess. >> You mention in your site about testing for perceptible effects above 2,500 Hz. How was this done? This was not a real scientific test. I depended on Carol and her very high sensitivity. I used a manual signal generator to drive the plates at various frequencies and relied on Carol to report some sensation. I have a recording of that test where I recorded into a tape recorder calling out each frequency and Carol making her comments and observations. Some of the frequencies corresponded with the Doug MacLean research and there were several others. I had already decided to go with the random frequency generator instead of trying to guess what the magic frequencies were, so very little time was spent on this quest. >> What kind of effect would you expect if someone used a GB4000 frequency generator in lieu of the random generator? Could this be done easliy enough if desired? I have heard good things about the GB4000, but this would be mixing apples and oranges and would not be compatible. I need to give Doug MacLean a lot of credit for his wonderful research. He is the only one in recent times that has done real scientific work testing frequencies while looking at spirochetes with a dark field microscope. He described to me what happened to the spirochetes when exposed to the specific frequencies. He did not report MOR or things exploding or the organism being destroyed such as you would hear about discussing the rife devices. He reported that the spirochetes just started vibrating and spinning faster and seemingly damaging themselves. Only 25% were affected on a given slide. My theory is that somehow these frequencies were interfering with the nervous system signals and motor controls of the spirochetes and making them over exert and damage their motor system. During our research we discovered that the spirochetes are also affected by audio acoustic energy, that is sound pressure waves. Playing the random frequencies over speakers seems to drive them crazy. When you put a speaker directly on a heavily infected spot they seem to scatter to get a way from the sound. Just sound does not seem to be able to kill them but when combined with the plates, seems to increase the effectiveness by about 40%. Sound may be useful in driving the spirochetes out of hiding places so that the frequencies can disable them. Peter, I hope I have answered some of your questions. Fell free to ask more. 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