Initially, I used insulated copper wire wound around a plastic funnel to keep it from floating when trying out the thermal chimney stirring idea. [which worked quite well ] I noticed that the exposed ends had collected a pretty thick black fuzz on them. "What" ?

  Batch of EIS @ 20 uS
 Drop in 1 inch length of bare shiny copper wire.
In a few days, TE has vanished and wire looks a bit black.
Several day later, meter reading goes way low and wire looks fuzzy/bubbly black.
 Remove wire and rub, still shiny.
Look at reside.  A mixture of silvery smear and black oxides.
 Check water, nothing much there but water.

 Copper apparently acts as a catalyst in ionic/colloidal silver water.
I've not noticed that any other metal does that, but then, I haven't looked into it very far. I do know that a nickel plated magnet has no such effect at all, even after several months.

I found glass funnels that don't float.  End of story.

Using copper for the [+] cathode seems to enhance Silver Hydroxide formation pretty dramatically till it becomes silver plated..

I was playing with an *inertial acceleration from gravity vs Cathode attraction to Ions * stirring idea, [electrical stirring] not considering the difference between Ions and particles, but observing directional effects of particles being moved laterally BY ions in motion, using concentric ring electrodes of different diameters at different elevations, using copper for the larger/lower ring Cathode.

It DID interrupt that pesky "ion track" arc that was leaving hard to remove deposits on the bottom, but didn't stir as well as thermal convection currents for whole container uniformity.

Ode

At 11:47 AM 6/30/2008 -0400, you wrote:
Dear Ode:

Would you please elaborate!  What do you think is going on?
Is it copper or any metallic substance?
How about a silver wire?

Jim Meissner   www.MeissnerResearch.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: CS>Big WOOPS!



  Drop a piece of copper wire into a batch of EIS / CS , wait a week or so
and observe using eyeballs and a meter.
..no more silver in the water.

Ode


At 10:37 AM 6/28/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>Dear Mike:
>
>I do remember talking to you about my design many years ago.  I was not
sure
>if you remembered that.
>
>Please resist the urge to go to 9 volts, bin there done that!  Spend your
>money on a 4.7 K ohm resistor instead of the current limit diode.
>
>http://meissnerresearch.com/info/silver-generator-pictures
>
>Look at the third picture down.  That will show you how much of the
negative
>lead is exposed.  The sleeve is 4 inches and the exposed negative silver
>electrode is about 2 inches.  You should see silver fuzz form there
>indicting that you have saturated the water with silver ions and the excess
>is electroplating on the negative electrode.
>
>Also it is "mandatory" for the negative electrode to be made out of silver!
>I started with silver plated copper wire but got inconsistent results.  I
>know it should not matter what the negative wire is made out of, but
testing
>both proved that silver was necessary.  I was trying to save money using
>copper, but a 7 inch piece of silver is only $5.  I will send you some
>silver wire if you like.
>
>Jim Meissner   www.MeissnerResearch.com
>
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