Howdy there, Wayne,


On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 04:13:01PM -0600, Wayne Fugitt wrote:
> Evening Indi,
>
> >> At 01:02 PM 11/9/2008, you wrote:
>> They are, but the toc stands for "table of contents". You must be  
>> sleepy today; I expect you knew that.
>
>   I may be sleepy, but I did wake up.  Seems many of the list members are 
> in a trance, or  have a sleeping sickness.  Some one must have switched 
> their silver wire to some other material that
> produced the sleeping sickness.
>

Could be, we never really know what others do.
:)


>   Abbreviations are often meaningless as I shall explain.
>
>> Just used to store message status in Eudora -- I knew that once, back in the
>> old MacOS days. Eudora was the best we had back then.
>   Many people think they know about Eudora when the do not.  They never 
> mastered it, or tried only an old version.
>
>   Someone talked me into looking at Thunderbird.  Maybe the version I 
> downloaded was old.
> It looked much like a 5 year old version of Eudora.  About 200 settings 
> were missing.
> I know you can add, 200 add on modules and get most of them.
>
> I often have 50 configuration files for eudora.   I can edit, and  
> control these, just like i can what the headers display and what they do 
> not.
>
> I can configure Eudora for ............
>
>  Any one of 4 or 5 dial ups
>
>  Network
>
>  DSL  or proxy server,
>
>        With a single click of the mouse.   Right,  A SINGLE CLICK.
>
> I have tied to crash Eudora for 15 years, and have not been able to do it.
> Often have 200 mailboxes with 5, 10 and up to 25,000 messages in a  
> single mailbox.
>
> Eudora is about as "Bullet Proof" as any software I have found.   None 
> are 100 %
> but some I have written have run 2.5 and 3.0 years,  24 / 7  and never 
> locked up and
> never shut down.
>
> >> Eudora was the best we had back then
>
>      What is the best you have now ?
> Sounds like you might like to say something bad about Eudora, Be my  
> guest.  <grin>
>

Perish the thought! Eudora rocks (or at least it did before it became a
branded version of thunderbird with version 8.0). I loved it back then, 
though on the Mac the last Qualcomm version hiccups with IMAP4, my preferred
protocaol. Sadly, there are no updates forthcoming for the 6.2.3 version, and
I needed something that would run on Linux and FreeBSD as well as the Mac,
so now I use mutt. It was a bear to configure properly, but I've got it very 
well-tuned now. Also I use claws-mail sometimes, but mutt is my favorite. It's 
really fast and almost infinitely configurable (though not pointy clicky like 
windows
users like). I've even got scripts for OS X now that integrate mutt with the
OS X graphics viewer, web browser, etc. And it works with my favorite text
editor, jed.

Eudora was as powerful but a heck of a lot easier to set up,and I didn't
have to build it from source to make it work right, either. :)


> >        The Eudora I use is a WinDoZZe program.
>
>> Yes, my answer was right there in your headers, starng me in the face.
>> If it was a snake, I'd have been bit, wouldn't I? :D
>
>    Maybe the TOC definition was also. ( for me )  Fairly logical for sure.
>
> Why I called the TOC an Index file,  that is Eudora calls it.
> The time and date changes on the TOC file only when the mailbox index is 
> updated.
>
> At rare times,  Eudora displays a message,   The index is corrupt or damaged,
> do you want to rebuild the index ?  At that time, the TOC will have a  
> new date and time.
>
> Since you know about the TOC files, maybe you can explain the difference in
> A table of Contents   and   an Index !   There may be one, but they are 
> similar.
>

Isn't a table of contents just a type of index?
I think it is...


>
> Don't ask me to write a Fuzzy Logic Set  ( a set of rules )
> that makes the decision of when to update Indexes.
>
> Likely I could, but it would give you, me, and others a headache to such 
> a gosh awful mess.
>
> Actually Fuzzy Logic is simpler than most think.  It is so unusual and 
> far out, most peoples mind will not work like that.
>


I think fuzzy logic is actually native for us, we're just not good at 
recognizing and
following it accurately in a conscious manner (pay no mind to the man behind 
the curtain!).
That or the human mind is a quantum thinker... Haven't figured it out yet.


>> Disagreement is more necessary than a lot of people realize, I think.
>> If we all agreed all the time we would only advance very slowly.
>
>   Heck, we do not disagree, we only think we do.  <grin>
>

Could be, Wayne. Could well be so...
:)

>   Wayne
>
>   Still trying to Crash Eudora, if you know how, please tell me.
>

Set it up to sync with an IMAP4 server, that works on OS X.
Not sure if it will do it on winderz. I always try to avoid 
windows (unless I'm getting paid to fix it), it gives me a
headache -- all that waiting, freezing and rebooting. Whenever 
I have to use it, I try to stay in cmd.exe. Feels more like home to me. 
But then, ~ is where the <3 is.
:)
Cheers,
indi
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