Hello Art,

We don't use an IC chip.  We use discrete components such as transistors,
diodes, resistors, etc.

It must have been someone else.

Trem
[email protected]

----- Original Message -----
From: Art Labrada <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Re: Current regulator


> Trem:
>
> Could you please tell me the specification for the IC (or chip) that is
used
> for current regulation?
> Some time ago -- I don't know if it was you -- someone posted the
> information but unfortunately I have missplaced it.  Thanks and best
> regards,
>
> Art
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Trem Williams <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Current regulator
>
>
> > Hello James,
> >
> > I'll do my best to answer your questions.  Over the period of time I was
> > designing our generator, I tried different combinations of voltage,
> current,
> > silver electrode size, water temperature, water quantity and electrode
> > spacing.  I noticed right off that if I used a constant voltage source,
> the
> > colloid was never consistent.  By that I mean it was sometimes yellow,
> > muddy, dark, brown or gray.  I noticed that all the previous variables
> > affected the end product.  About that time I decided the variables would
> > have to be eliminated to make a consistent colloid.  It turned out there
> > were too many variables to juggle.  I then thought that perhaps a
constant
> > current source would help by not allowing current to rise so rapidly as
> when
> > using the constant voltage source.  I still had occasional problems
> however.
> > I was still using silver wire.  It was about that time I tried using
> silver
> > with more surface area and that was when the colloid became more
> consistent.
> > It was obvious to me that lower current density was one of the great
> secrets
> > to consistency and uniformity.  So I began to make it with the same
> > electrode material we now provide with our generators.  It is 1/4" wide
X
> > 5" long.  Wetted depth is about 4 inches.  The surface area of our
> > electrodes is about 2.5 times that of 14 Ga. wire.  That made a major
> > difference in the end product.  It worked quite well but there still
> seemed
> > to be times when it wasn't as consistent as I thought it should be so I
> > began to experiment with different current settings.  After many
> > experiments, I settled on 1 milliampere as being the best compromise.
The
> > current density was low enough that I had little fallout and the colloid
> was
> > the same every time.  It would turn yellow overnight every time and I
had
> no
> > longer had any problems with spacing or temperature or timing.
> >
> > So, as you can see I am not an expert but I do have some expertise.  I
can
> > categorically state from my own experiences that one cannot control a
> > constant voltage source and small gauge silver wires and the spacing
> > consistently enough to make a product as uniform as when using a
constant
> > LOW current source and large surface are electrodes.
> >
> > As I state in our web page, running a constant voltage generator is like
> > driving an automobile with the gas pedal stuck to the floorboard.  It
will
> > run away with you.  You end up with large particles.  I quote you from
the
> > message below.
> >
> > >When making colloidal silver, the only time you have to worry about
large
> > > particle size is when you are letting the process run to long.
> >
> > You know I am right as does anyone who uses constant voltage generators.
> > The current begins to rapidly rise as the silver is deposited in the
> water.
> > Your voltage, timing, spacing, wetted surface and water temperature all
> > affect the end product.   And not to its benefit.
> >
> > I am NOT saying a few batteries and a couple of pieces of silver wire
> > doesn't work.  I am saying it doesn't work as well as what I provide.
And
> > that's the end of that story.   Constant current IS better.  SO is
larger
> > surface area electrodes.
> >
> > Back to you.
> >
> >
> > Trem
> > [email protected]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> > From: James Vernon, Allison <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 9:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Current regulator
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm just trying to clarify so that I may understand.  You manufacture
a
> > > colloidal silver generator with a proprietary circuit and you're not
an
> > > expert?
> > >
> > > You say that your current regulator limits the current to 1
milliampere.
> > > How did you come to the conclusion that 1 milliampere is the best
> current
> > to
> > > use?  If I run 3 9volt batteries to silver to pure distilled water for
> 30
> > > minutes, with the silver spaced 3/4 inches apart and a wetted depth of
3
> > and
> > > a half inches, are you implying that my CS won't be of uniform small
> > > particle size with little or no fallout?
> > >
> > > In my humble opinion, a regulator will only do you good if you have a
> > habit
> > > of forgetting the time and letting your process run for to long.  When
> > > making colloidal silver, the only time you have to worry about large
> > > particle size is when you are letting the process run to long.  If you
> > know
> > > how to tell time, and have a watch or a clock, then you do not need a
> > > current regulator.
> > >
> > > As I stated, the above paragraph is only an opinion, but if it is
wrong,
> > > then please direct me to an expert who can educate me.
> > >
> > > Yours in health,
> > >
> > > James Vernon, Allison
> > >
> > >
> > >
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