I went and looked at it again, and I guess the tube I was thinking was for
the fridge is actually the one supplying the water.  (It's the only tube
that is the same size as the one supplied with the DI unit.)  [Sorry... I
have major brain fog and am easily confused sometimes!]  The 'out' water
goes to the RO tap and the fridge via a larger diameter tube.  Anyway, it
appears the problem really is is that I need a diverter and a 'step down' to
accommodate the larger tube size of the RO to the smaller tube size of the
DI.  I guess that is something I can pick up online or at an aquarium supply
place.

As far as why I'd want to drink it... I just thought it'd be the best water
to drink!  That's all.  I guess no one does that, so I'm just being silly!
:-)  Just gonna use it for CS.

I really do appreciate your help.  Just having someone to bounce this off of
has made it easier!  Thanks so much Malcolm!
Gina

-----Original Message-----
From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:17 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>first batch, DI... was: water

Hi Gina,

It's not a question of patience, it's a question of confusion; mine
mostly.  What line to the fridge?  Where does it come from?  What brand
and what components in your RO system?  Why do you want to drink D-I
water, why not just RO?  De-Ionization is a FINAL step in the
purification process unless you are talking about a water softener, one
of those big tanks with a bunch of controls to "regenerate" the resin
beads in the water softener every so often.  The little cartridges for a
D-I unit following the RO unit couldn't handle straight tap water for
more than a day to a week depending on the quality of the tap water.
Why would you want to hook it into the water line to the fridge?  Isn't
that just for an ice-cube maker or something? 

Here are a couple of ideas; get pencil and paper and draw the whole
setup out, with arrows so you can keep track of which way the water is
flowing.  Then you can figure out things like does the fridge water come
straight from the source, i.e., the cold water supply that goes to the
cold water side of the tap?  Where does the water that goes INTO the RO
system come from, and where does the water that comes OUT of the RO
system go?  If you can't do this for yourself, you'll have to get
someone else to do it for you, over the 'net won't work, too many
puzzles, not enough time.

Wish I could be more useful, but this isn't a long-distance prob. it's a
hands-on prob.

Take care, 
Malcolm

On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 23:26 -0700, Gina Moore wrote:
> Sorry.  I guess I thought you could read my mind!  LOL!  :-)  Yes, the
first
> batch I made of CS had the slimy looking stuff in it.  Not a whole lot of
> it, but since I had not made it before, I wasn't sure if it was ok!  It
was
> Wal Mart brand distilled water, and it seemed ok.  Oh, and I have a Silver
> Puppy.
> 
> The problem with the RO unit is I thought the water at the tap (at the
sink)
> was RO water, but it doesn't seem to be.  I looked online at some pics of
> RO's with DI's and my setup is a bit different.  The tube that goes to the
> RO tap at the sink is a bigger diameter and comes from a different place
on
> the RO unit.  The tube that I'm supposed to connect the DI unit to, goes
to
> what I think is the fridge and not the tap.  Doesn't seem right to me that
> it only goes to the fridge and not to the tap at the sink like the ones I
> saw online.
> 
> I'd like to just put the DI in the line that I normally drink out of.
Isn't
> it better to drink DI water?  Is this not possible/recommended?
> 
> Sorry for all the questions.  I just want to do the right/best thing and
> since making CS is new to me, I don't know what the right/best thing is!
Be
> patient with me!  :-)
> Gina
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] 
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:28 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>first batch, DI... was: water
> 
> On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 18:51 -0700, Gina Moore wrote:
> > I just made my first batch of CS.  I used store brand distilled water
coz
> I
> > haven't hooked up my DI unit to my RO yet.  It had this whitish stuff in
> it
> > - looks to be slimy, but haven't actually touched to see if it is.  Is
> that
> > normal?  Is this first batch not good?
> 
> I'm not sure what you're asking; is the whitish slimy stuff something in
> the first batch of CS you made?  If that's what you mean, the white
> stuff is probably silver oxide - if the water was good distilled.
> Silver oxide is not a problem, you can let it settle out to the bottom
> and pour the rest off, or not even worry about it.  
> 
> But I've no idea what kind of CS maker you have, so can't say anything
> really. . . 
> 
> As far as the D-I cartridge goes, it comes After the RO unit; so the
> water goes into the RO unit, comes out of the RO unit and goes into the
> D-I cartridge and after you let it run for a few minutes, like maybe 2
> or 3, that's the water you want to use for making CS.  Mine is set up so
> I have a little valve under the sink, so when I want water for CS I shut
> off the little valve where the RO water goes into it's storage tank,
> then open the valve that comes from the D-I cartridge and let the 'RO
> plus D-I' filtered water run into the container I'll make my CS in.
> That does take a little extra plastic tubing and stuff to set it up, but
> it's not something to describe over the net for a beginner to do, so get
> someone local who can understand what you're trying to do and who can
> set it up for you.
> 
> Take care,
> Malcolm 
> > 
> > Also, I can't figure out how to hook up my DI.  If anyone could help me
> I'd
> > appreciate it.  The tubing that goes to my RO on my sink is not the same
> > size as the DI tubing.  And the tubing that is the same seems to only go
> to
> > the fridge.  Not sure why that is... I'm thinking I'm not getting RO
even
> > out of my sink, which is all I drink!
> > 
> > Any help is appreciated.
> > Gina
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] 
> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 6:14 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>water
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Distilled water may or may not be "clean" of organics, since they may be
> > carried over with the steam; in fact this is a common method used to
> > separate organic compounds from each other and their mother liquids.
> > Reverse Osmosis also has shortcomings, in that a few dissolved mineral
> > salts can be pushed through the membrane "in solution", especially the
> > cheaper membranes.
> > 
> > For RO water the way to go is to pass the water through a de-ionization
> > cartridge  after the reverse osmosis.  At that point you'll have Lab
> > quality water, about an order of magnitude (ten times) better than
> > anything you are likely to buy in a gallon jug in the grocery.  
> > 
> > Soo, de-ionization is not a treatment in itself, unless you just want
> > "soft" water, and distillation can be done well, or not-so-well.  The
> > Only way to be sure is to test the water with something like a Hanna PWT
> > or the Com 100 water conductivity meters or their equivalent.
> > 
> > An alternative might be to find a "compounding pharmacy" and buy pure
> > water from them.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Malcolm
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2009-07-13 at 13:57 -1000, Smitty wrote:
> > > >Use distilled water only.  Some "deionized" waters are ok, but for
> > > > you're purposes only use distilled.
> > > >Bob
> > > 
> > > Thanks. . . .will do. . . .
> > > 
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