Hahahahaha -- yeah, I too have one of those meows that likes to type.  He wants 
my hands on him, not on the keyboard, so I guess he figures if he puts himself 
where the keyboard is, voila!

Thanks for the info!
Dick




________________________________
From: Dok Dallas <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, December 13, 2009 11:35:37 PM
Subject: CS>Re: ac or dc?/Sorry, a 15-lb Meow...Sent It!


ROFL(mao) MEOW, #...@*%, Hisss <grin> Hey...where's my mouse?
 
Sorry folks, obviously my REPLY msg. was not-finished, or-ready, to
be SENT earlier...Mr. CAcTus (yes, 15 lb. Cat), walked on Keyboard!

So for-now anyway...please disregard my last msg.... may try, later?
 
My intended reply would have been rather-lengthy anyway, but just a
little TEASER so you STAY-TUNED for longer Prime-Time version...?
 
FYI: Ya can make EIS with ULF-AC Generator ckts. @ Freq. <.01Hz!
Also no-one ever mentions Polyphasic AC & BiPhasic DC, on multiple
Electrodes to create 2D Ion-Trajectories (no STIR needed) etc...Hmm?
Nothing new in physics (owner of CS Y-GrOpE on this...died 2yrs ago)
but CS Engineering group never was advertised due to lack-of-interest?
Personally knew Owner/Ernie years earlier in Cathodic-Protection area.  
(Much of his electro-chemistry knowledge, was never shared...in publc) 
 
Warning remember old 3D Movies & Comic Books with the Red+Green
Lens in Glasses we had to wear to see 3D...NEVER cross Red+Green
Laser Pointer beam's when lQQking for TYNDALL, or who-knows-what?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyndall_effect  Gee don't anyone tell NEVIL,
that BLUE-RAY  (405 nm) Laser can locate smaller-size particles, than
RED & GREEN Laser Pointers...Yes, check out [photospectrometers]?
(Was it Nevil, said I was blowing BLUE Smoke lQQking at tiny-particle)   
 
Several other multi-trode tricks...even 2:1 Ag (surface area) multiplier~
or other than 1:1 Trode~Driver tricks...that can alter (pH) Ag+/OH- mix
Well this gets a little too complicated for here and needs more space? 
 
HVDC also works. but no obvious advantage and to add yet even more
food for thought...Copper & Silver close together inside insulated pipes
where Water Velocity/(pump speed) can be used to move/carry a fresh
ION away quickiy from Nernst region near E-Trodes, works without HV.
 
If ya need Gallons-Fast...HVAC~OK. but LVDC is Safer, Better & FUN!
I prefer EIS variations on multi-trode/BiPhasic/LVDC @ Lower (I) limits.
 
If not in timed-race...I can brew excelent 20~25ppm EIS with $15 ckts 
Batt, Current (adj.)/limiter, Blue Led-(ppm-estimated) EOB scale, DIY*!   
(Good news is...EIS...don't need Degree in Physics/Electro-Chemistry)
 
Oh well, have to go see where Mr. CAcTus ran-off to, with my MOUSE!
This may take me a day or two to get the MOUSE back, so hang-tight.
===================================================  

--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Dok Dallas <[email protected]> wrote:


>From: Dok Dallas <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: CS>Re: ac or dc?
>To: [email protected]
>Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 3:18 PM
>
>
>Let me throw in some over looked scientific details/(facts) that are never 
>mentioned, when the HOW-TO-BREW & LVDC/HVAC &   
>SWAP/(BiPHASIC) Vvs. 
> 
>
>
>--- On Sun, 12/13/09, Richard Goodwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Richard Goodwin <[email protected]>
>>Subject: Re: CS>Re: ac or dc?
>>To: [email protected]
>>Date: Sunday, December 13, 2009, 5:49 AM
>>
>>
>> >>
>>I was thinking high voltage AC, like 10-15 kv.  
>>
>>Perhaps the 60 hz ac doesn't work well because it switch so fast, it doesn't 
>>give the silver particles time to separate far enough from their electrodes, 
>>and they plate right back onto them in the reverse cycle?  
>>
>>If that is the case, then better stirring, or flowing of the water might 
>>help.  I haven't tried ac yet, but will as soon as I can get a transformer.  
>>I keep missing them on ebay. :-)
>>
>>I use DC now -- high voltage to start a fresh batch, and gradually lower it 
>>to limit the current.  Electrophoresis power supplies are readily available 
>>on ebay.  Switching polarity makes them work much better.  So one question 
>>would be:  what is the optimum switching rate?  
>>
>>Dick
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
 From: Alchemysa <[email protected]>
>>To: [email protected]
>>Sent: Fri, December 11, 2009 6:48:52 PM
>>Subject: CS>Re: ac or dc?
>>
>>Genuine low voltage AC doesn't work at all. (i.e. a low voltage 50/60hz. AC 
>>wall adaptor). There a few low voltage AC adaptors around so don't mistakenly 
>>try to use one.
>>
>>It has to be DC (or DC with polarity swapping).
>>
>>David
>>
>>
>>> 
>>> From: Richard Goodwin <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 12 December 2009 4:49:46 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: CS>ac or dc?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Which do you think works better for making EIS, DC that you have to switch 
>>> polarity on every minute or so, or AC, assuming everything else is equal?
>>> 
>>> Dick
>>
>>
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