Doug,

      May I ask what state you reside in?  Here in CA the vets give IV DMSO 
very frequently the day before a race with no legal issues that I am aware of.  
As far as Yu Nan Bai Yao is concerned I have found that it is necessary to use 
5 or 6 bottles for bleeding (5 - 6 times human dose).  This is normal for a 
horse and is not overdosing, nor does it test positive.

     Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: polo 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>one for brooks


  Bob,

      It sounds all good in theory, just stop DMSO application a day before, 
but life never ends up being quite that simple on the track. Metabolism rates, 
dosages, skilled help, delivery method, etc, etc, all figure in to a very 
confusing picture when it comes to getting stuck with a possible drug positive. 
I have long found that banned drugs should be handled very carefully even 
beyond the proper withholding recommendations. Plus there are so many gray 
cases of guessing whether a horse is infected or not, that it is often a good 
idea to nebulize as close to the race as possible, even on race day. 
Maintenance therapy is good too, beyond what we may consider a cured 
individual. 

      Biofilm infections of the lungs can easily be multi-specie colonies 
consisting of fungi and bacteria and probably other forms living 
synergistically. I  have found native American herbs to be just as effective as 
Yu Nan Bai and I only give one 150ml bottle versus your 6.

  doug
    ----- Original Message ----- 
          The state I reside in (CA) allows DMSO as late as the day before a 
race if I'm not mistaken.  I do believe alot of horses bleed due to fungal 
infections in the lung tissue... but that is only part of the problem.  In 
Chinese medicine it is due to "dry heat"  or "heat" in the lung and  wind 
invading. Regardless, delivering CS with DMSO via a nebulizer might be a good 
idea but if you're going to try and clear up an infection you should do it 
between races, not right before or the day of.  That way there is no problem 
with DMSO either.  We use Yu Nan Bai Yao very successfully.  This stops 
bleeding internally.  Give 6 bottles the morning of the race.  Works better 
than lasix without the side effects.  

    Bob