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it for the Researcher, It has given me a lot of comfort. I am no longer chained to the toilet. It is a new product called Inner Relief I have been asked to give a terstimonial on Inner Relief, of which a web page is being set up now, along with other testimonials that have had outstanding success with this product. The web site should be available for access on about Thursday, so if you keep in contact you can have a look, and read the information on the product and make up your own mind about it. This natural food source is only being made here in Australia, and I believe the company will be able to send direct to America. Yours faithfully, Carmen ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: Daniel Holly <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:00 AM Subject: CS>Subj: Re: CS>zhan zhuang > Dan > Zhan Zhuang came from Yi Quan, now known as Da Cheng Quan, which was > developed by Master Wang Xiang Zhai. Dr. Yu was his desciple. Dr.Yu was > sponsored to the U.S. by Stanford University to research his chi ability. He > stayed on in San Francisco and I learned from him. > Master Choy is another well known Zhan Zhuang master from Shanghai. I also > learned from him. Read Warriors of Stillness, meditative traditions in the > Chinese martial arts about him. > Master Wang Xuan Jie is another desciple of Wang Xiang Zhai whom I met in > Beijing but did not have time to take lessons. He has a paper back titled > Fighting Techniques of Da Cheng Quan. > > Then there is Lam Kam Chueng with his Way of Energy, a best seller. > In San Francisco there is Paul Dong, (Empty Force),Chuek Fung and Mr. Yong > teaching the art altho they are not direct students of Wang Xiang Zhai. > > My experience with Dr.Yu and Master Choy employs only 2 postures. Hands at > the side and hands in front. In fact, when Master Choy came to the U.S. 2 > years ago he told me it was only neccessary to stand with the hands at the > side. He said the other postures were superflous and maybe designed to keep > one as a long term student. Mind you, this is his opinion and I don't want to > start an argument. > > I hope this background information is helpful. > > I stand to develop my root in Tai Chi. Incidentally, Master Choy does not do > Tai Chi. He says ZZ is sufficient and I've seen him demonstrate against Wing > Chun kung fu. > Who are you learning from? > wong > > p.s. If you are interested in extending chi, read Kozo Nishini"s The Breath > of Life, the power of ki for maximum vitality. > > > <<Where are these zhan zhuang masters? > Where do they live? > > You may not sweat but Americans will for > at least > the first few times they do it. > THANK YOU > Dan>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 7:05 > PM > Subject: Re: CS>zhan zhuang > > | In a message dated 09/04/1999 12:11:06 > PM Pacific Daylight Time, > | [email protected] writes: > | > | << Try just one of the zhan zhuang > positions and > | you will be sweating within ten > minutes and > | will see how difficult it is. >> > | > | I have learned from Master Yu Peng Shi > and Master Cai Song Fang (Choy Sung > | Fong). No sweat. > | > | wong > | > | > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >

