If you do something like put salt in the water before you make the EIS, which some people do to speed up the electrolysis process by increasing the conductivity of the water, then you end up with silver chloride. Or if you do what I used to do, and arc high voltage into the surface of the water, then you end up with silver nitrate. Either one of those, or any other salt of silver, will be more likely to cause argyria.
And I suppose some kinds of contamination of the silver, water, glass, or whatever, could cause something else to be formed during electrolysis that would not be good for you. Dick ----- Original Message ---- From: Leslie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 1:19:33 PM Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use? How do you get contaminated collodial silver salts? Could I have gotten contaminated silver?? Maybe I am doing something wrong in making it. Perhaps I should start all over in learning just how to do all this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "poast" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:03 AM Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use? > Hello Steve, > > I am totally new to EIS, so please be gentle with me... > > Your opinion seems to be that the best use EIS is to maintain a level in the > body through daily use. You also indicate that you don't think that a large > dose of EIS is effective. > > As I ponder this I find myself finding it difficult to understand. It would > seem that if your body was "invaded" by a bunch of "bad guys" they would > overwhelm the "good guys" in your body, and an influx of a large "good guy" > army would help win the war. > > I know this is over simplified, but isn't the idea to expose the "bad guys" > to a concentration of the EIS? > > I am probably missing a lot, but any "big picture" concepts would be greatly > appreciated. > > Tom > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Norton, Steve" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:04 PM > Subject: RE: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use? > > > Sunny, > > On the face of it, this would seem to be an easy question to answer but it > is not. If I was asked that by someone my question back to them would be how > long and how often do you intend to use it and what ppm is your CS? And what > type of CS are you using? If they are using silver nitrate or a mild silver > protein (MSP), I would advise them to not use any. If they are using what we > call EIS, made by running a current between 2 silver electrodes in distilled > water or a colloidal silver (CS) consisting of small silver particles > suspended in water, I would give the following answer. > > BTW, this is only my opinion and others may have different opinions. Much of > my reasoning is based on my interpretation of the Altman Silver Excretion > Study and my understanding of how silver is excreted from the body. There is > no universal agreement in these areas, esp. in the interpretation of the > Altman Silver Excretion Study. > > If you use it infrequently and for short periods you can take large > quantities of either. But EIS is inherently more tolerant of excess silver. > If it is short enough and infrequent enough it is almost a don't care. But > there is no therapeutic value in taking large amounts in my opinion. > > If the person is going to take it daily for the rest of their life, I would > recommend limiting it to 3.5 oz of 10 ppm EIS daily, or less. If the EIS is > a higher or lower ppm, they should change the amount taken to account for > the difference in ppm. For CS they should follow the manufactures > recommendations but take no more than the amount you would use for EIS of > the same ppm. For either EIS or CS, holding the silver in the mouth for 5 to > 15 minutes before swallowing allows as much as 10% of the ionic silver to be > absorbed through the mucosal tissues and those ions are the most effective. > If someone wants to use more than 3.5 oz of 10 ppm EIS per day, I would > recommend that the additional amounts only be held in the mouth for 10 to 15 > minutes and then spit out the silver and not swallow it. [1] In my opinion, > you should follow these recommendations for infrequent, short term use as > well. I am not convinced that taking large amounts of CS or EIS even for a > short periods is more effective than these lesser amounts, esp. when using > EIS. There may possibly be some additional benefit to taking more CS, > because the silver particles in CS may not be as effective as ionic silver, > and perhaps that can be partially overcome by use of more CS. But again, the > amount must always be within reason. > > The amounts I recommend for long term daily use equates to around 1 mg of > silver per day and is the amount of ionic silver that the liver can process > in a day. This ensures that there is no significant backlog of silver > waiting to be eliminated from the body. EIS is somewhat unique in that > excess amounts of EIS will also be eliminated through the kidney. To my > knowledge, no other ionic silver has this property. This characteristic of > EIS makes it very tolerant of taking too much EIS and makes it safer to take > and not get argyria. But even EIS has limits. The one person I know of that > got argyria from using EIS was taking daily amounts of EIS that were > equivalent to over 10 times the amount I recommended above and even then it > took 8 years for the argyria to appear. That person was taking amounts of > silver that significantly exceeded the excretion capacity of both the liver > and the kidney. > > > > [Note 1] Just for this list, I would also suggest that if one needs to use > amounts of EIS in excess of 1 mg per day, that an effective method of doing > so would be to take the first 1 mg as EIS and additional amounts of EIS > should be taken with Gatorade or a citrus drink so that the additional ionic > silver is silver citrate. Taking the Gatorade version would need to be > offset in time from the EIS only to prevent conversion of the EIS only to > silver citrate. This would increase the total ppm of ionic silver in the > blood to higher levels than I believe can be achieved with EIS alone. > > > - Steve N > > > From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 10:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? Agyria > > Hey, I posted on facebook about CS and someone mentioned the 'blue' thing. I > have so many postings here, can't find it.. can anyone quickly answer > this... HOW MUCH is TOO MUCH? > > thanks > sunny x > > > From: John E. Stevens <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 1:12:26 PM > Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? > > If it's ablue moon, too much colloidal silver water or contaminated > colloidal silver salts may be being ingested. > > John > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Kathy Tankersley <[email protected]> > wrote: > Someone on this list recently commented on how his fingernails got a 'moon' > on them when he increased his CS consumption. Can someone on this list tell > me what this looks like? Thanks Kathy > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
