I'd say that there's something about that water that's turning some
portion of the ions into particles prematurely....and the generator can't
detect particles to know when to turn off.
If the LED is very dim at the start, over 12 hours for 32 ounces of water
isn't unusual and if particles are forming faster as concentrations get
higher, it might be a lot longer to shut down..or not at all.
So long as the LED is lit, Ions are being emitted, but if many of them
aren't remaining as Ions, the conductivity of the water may never get high
enough to trigger the Auto Off.
The "Silver" is still there, but not in a form that is conductive.
In DC mode, if deposits get thick enough from reacting with whatever is in
the water, they can shield the electrodes with an only semi conductive
layer [semi insulator], reducing the generators ability to monitor water
conductivity.
Ozone can be a problem as it oxidizes Ions into nonconductive brown to
black Oxide particles.
In commercially distilled water, the Ozone from legally mandated
Ozonization used to make sure the water is sterile generally out-gasses
before it reaches the shelves, but if the water has stayed cold the whole
time, it can still be in there and cause problems.
Pure water will even suck stuff up right out of the air, so even the
distillers air quality can have an effect.
If the air has a lot of Sulphur Dioxide in it, for instance..Sulphur and
Silver makes "tarnish". In winter, air may have higher levels of Sulphur
Dioxide from coal fired power plants and even the air in the home may be
more polluted.
Boiling that water will drive off most dissolved gases.
Peroxide in the water can make pure metallic particles with no conductivity
rise for days and days of run time.
Something in the distillers source water can have effects and several
different bottlers may be using the same source water.
What the Generator does, is FAR more simple with far fewer environmental
and distiller maintenance variables than what a distiller does.
All the Generator does is pass a set amount of current through water and
monitor the voltage reduction it takes to keep that current constant as the
conductivity goes up as additional ions are added to it.
When that voltage drops to match an internal reference voltage, it shuts
itself off.
But only Ions contribute to conductivity rise and thus voltage drop and
just keeping current constant cannot control what the *water* is doing
*with* those ions that turns them into something else.
Extremely PURE water [even water that isn't pure but the impurities don't
register on a meter] can take many times as long as not so pure water and
all of the time difference is at the start as the water builds up enough
conductivity to make the current HIGH enough to become constant.
Once the generator DOES deliver it's max current, [LED fully bright] then a
timer can be useful, but until then, time is totally worthless as a
predictor of anything.
If you slowly pull the electrodes out of the water and the LED doesn't
immediately get dimmer as that is done, the generator is delivering its max
set current and the Ion emission rate will be constant regardless of that
the water is doing *with them* to make them invisible to the auto off.
By the same token, if the electrode clear the water and the LED never gets
dimmer before clearing the water disconnects the electrodes making the LED
go out, it's about to shut down.
At that point, it's so close that you really don't have to wait for it
and waiting MIGHT let it cross some contaminant feedback loop threshold
where the conductivity rise rate goes to nil or nearly nil.
This generally happens at around 30 uS due to waters inherent solubility
limits and whatever ion to contaminant reaction rates, but different water
does different things even at different temperatures.
There is nothing more simple...or...chemically active than an Ion and the
only thing the generator does is produce ions, so if there are any
complexities, it has to be something other than water in the water.
As a universal solvent, Water can be extremely complex and at the
concentrations being dealt with, even a fingerprint left after eating the
wrong thing two days ago can change everything.
That would be unusual, but it can and has happened.
Glass can absorb contaminants and release them into that universal
solvent for weeks and weeks.
That would be unusual too, but it can and has happened.
If there is any doubt about what was in that jar, get a NEW jar that
nothing has ever been in.
And you may need to wash and rinse that one too, because things will
condense right out of the air and build up.
If you live near the ocean, for instance, the air will be a lot like a
chemical soup and distilled water is like a dry sponge to almost all of
that stuff.
ode
At 10:31 PM 2/13/2010 -0800, you wrote:
Did the green light come on immediatly, or after it had been 'cooking' for
awhile?
Steve
--- On Sun, 2/14/10, orv delany <[email protected]> wrote:
From: orv delany <[email protected]>
Subject: CS>using silverpuppy question
To: [email protected]
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 1:24 AM
I recieved the silverpuppy today and put in distilled water thats been
prepared with activated charcoal, reverse osmosis, de-ionzation, steam
distilled plus micro filtration sodium free, mineral content less than 1
ppm ozone protected , cleaned mason jar 32 oz with distilled water and
turned on to auto mode and DC . green light came on and its been on
almost 12 hr. and hasen't gone off yet. anyone know what is happening
? even a guess. Help thank you orv delany in portland or.
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