----- Original Message ----- From: Lew Fong How <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <Vicky [email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 3:17 PM Subject: Re: CS>urgently looking for help
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Osbourne, Holmes <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:00 AM > Subject: RE: CS>urgently looking for help > > > > Hello, > > > > Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Yours is the kind of situation where I > > am glad to have the services of a MD. > > > > Some thoughts: > > > > The CS is killing pathogens selectively, allowing a superinfection of a > > resistant strain, a rare possibility. > > > > You have a kidney problem caused by something other than a pathogen. The > > pus is puzzling, though. > > > > You are allergic to silver. > > > > Your process is making something other than, or in-addition-to CS. > > > > There is a question about CS reaching the bladder; being removed in the > > liver and reticuloendothelium. I have not seen hard info. > > > > Is bladder pressure a symptom of kidney problem or more associated with a > > bladder infection? > > > > and, let's not forget > > The X factor.... > > > > If you stop the silver, don't take the other ABX, and it goes away, it > > tells nothing. If you stop the silver and don't take the ABX and it gets > > better it may indicate that it was a superinfection. If you stop taking > > the silver and take the ABX and it get better it indicated a strain > > resistant to CS. Another option would be increasing the CS dosage, if you > > are confidant of the quality. I it gets worse, stop the silver and take > > the ABX. > > > > Not medical advice, heaven forbid, just some comments about what I would > be > > thinking if I were in your situation. > > > > Trust your doctor and your intuition... > > > > Please keep us posted. > > > > Good fortune. > > > > James Osbourne, Holmes > > > > [email protected] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Walker, Vicky J SUP:EX [SMTP:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 2:57 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: CS>urgently looking for help > > > > Hello list members, > > > > I would like to ask you a question because I am totally confused. > > > > I started to use CS approximately 2 weeks ago. I am doing my own > colloidal > > silver and I am drinking 2oz in the morning and 2 oz in the evening. > > I started to have some bladder pressure a few days ago. I didn't do > > anything about it because I thought that this is only temporary thing. > > Yesterday evening I notice some blood passing with my urine and bloody > > mucus. I decided to go to see a doctor today morning. He checked my > urine > > and said that he found blood, proteins and N2 there. He suspects bladder > > infection therefore he prescribed anybiotics (Cipro for 3 days). The > urine > > was sent to the lab for the culture to see what kind of bacteria is there. > > And here is the confusion. I don't know if I have bladder infection but > it > > I have than I should not have it because I was taking CS for 2 weeks. My > > other theory is that while I was taking CS I didn't drink a lot of water > so > > maybe I have kidney overload? I didn't take the anybiotics yet because I > am > > not sure if this is kidney infection. > > I would like to know what do you think? Please let me know because I am > > completely confused. > > > > my e-mail: [email protected] > > > *************************************** Hi there, I drop in to say hello and to find out how things are going with you after going through your message. Remember, my conversation with you is purely domestic. You are to follow strictly the instructions given to you by your attending physician and you should not alter his regime without his permission while you are in his care. My differential resume ************************** * The pressure symptoms of you bladder are suggestive of an obstructive /inflammatory pathology . * James 's assumption: < Your process is making something other than,or in - addition - to CS. > is logical. The immune complexes formed could lead to allergy ! * To STOP taking Colloidal Silver interim. Be mindful of any new sign or symptom. To inform your physician IMMEDIATELY * Might consider doing an IVP [ Intravenous Pyelogram ] to delineate any obstructive mechanism and the level of obstruction [ whether in the kidney, the ureters or the bladder] Any enlargement or contracture of the kidneys or dilation of the ureters may be delineated. * Might want ulrasounography done for stones in Kidneys,Ureters and Bladder. These are the possible obstructive elements. * To take a more detailed history pertaining to the urogenital system To ask for more specific information on the frequency of urination, any pain during micturition, any difficulty in initiating micturition: the localization of pain and its directional radiation of pain. * While waiting for the Full Urinary and Microscopic Examination with Culture and Sensitivity report, I will take a very detailed history of past and present medical history with particular emphasis on alimentation and medication. * Do not forget to tell the patient that there are many out there who care. With regards Lew [ Malaysia] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. 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