Definitely a clear glass whisky bottle. Empty for a long long time. [In
a Nitrate rich atmosphere. a barn?]
Apparently glass makes a pretty good capacitor plate and that's a surface
thing..could be related.
But that would account for adhesion [by way of adsorption?] and maybe Gecko
feet.
The permeability of glass and fused quartz to water, alcohol and ether and
its relation to pressure windows has been studied. These liquids are shown
to penetrate to considerable depths if the pressure is maintained for as
long as fifteen minutes, in which case the pieces of glass or quartz are
shattered if the pressure is rapidly released. However, if the pressure is
released over a period of several days little or no breakage occurs. It is,
therefore, likely that much of the difference in the behavior of pressure
windows as different liquids are used in contact with the windows is due to
their ability to penetrate the glass or quartz.
© 1932 The American Physical Society
..small amounts of pressure over long periods of time?
I would think that surface adsorption could be overcome fairly
easily...could be wrong.
ode
At 11:19 AM 5/23/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Ode, There is a whole body of science dedicated to the physics of
surface chemistry. Surface molecules are not subject to the same dynamics
as the molecules in the interior and thus show a different physical
profile. The molecules on the surface have a certain amount of
"attraction" forces available, thus the adsorption forces.
Ceramic bottles containing perfumes dating back thousands of years have
been found. As you know perfumes contain highly aggressive compounds such
as terpenes.
Your whiskey may have been bottled in a non-glazed pottery jug?
Cheers
Frank
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From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:22 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>Using pickle jars and virgin glass jars to
make colloidal silver ---
OK, good to know it doesn't go very far in...and needn't go very far
to get out.
..but it does adsorb.
Is there a difference between surface structure and the rest of the
bottle where a few centuries would make a difference. [a moot point in
practical terms ]
I found a 100 year old whisky bottle in a barn many years ago and barely
grazed it on something on the way out...it instantly turned to dust.
[Whoda thunkit]
Ode
At 04:09 PM 5/22/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Ode, What you seem to describe is a well known effect of surface
adsorption. It is true that glass and many other surfaces exhibit the
property of attracting and retaining organic molecules much in the same
way as charcoal and zeolites perform. However this is a surface
phenomena ( several molecular layers thick) and it is far from "Glass
isn't as "waterproof" as we think it is and just like oil will migrate
though cast iron, various things will migrate through glass in either
direction"
The permeability of glass is such that is used to contain the smallest
molecules (hydrogen) at high pressures. It is also used to hold high
vacuum values for years (forever, really) Glass is impermeable to any
common fluid. Hydrofluoric acid is the only compound that reacts
chemically with glass but nothing migrates through.
The difficulty in eliminating traces of any prior contents in glass can
be eliminated by using aqua regia a mixture of 3 parts of Hydrochloric
and one part of Nitric acids and allow to stand for a couple of hours
and rinse thoroughly with distilled water. If necessary the mixture can
be heated to 70-80C. Proceed with caution this blend is highly corrosive.
Cheers
Frank
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