Dear Mr Bradley,

 

I read your post with some interest and am encouraged to seek clarification on 
some matters of which may seem trivial to you and/or others.

 

You'll have to excuse my ignorance and inept grasp of chemistry, but I would be 
grateful if you could satisfy my curiosity with some brief clarification of the 
following.

 

1) Was a pH level of the EIS/CS solution noted prior to mixing with the egg?  
If I am correct, the pH level drops over time until a point of 'stabilisation' 
of solution has been reached.  This may be of nil relevance however, but am 
curious to know anyway.

 

2) Was the EIS/CS used in the mix introduced *immediately* after cessation of 
the EIS/CS production process, or was it a stabilised solution?  My 
understanding of EIS/CS is that the silver ion content diminishes over time as 
a percentage of ions are lost to agglomeration or aggregation until a point of 
stabilisation has been attained.  This may be of nil relevance also, but would 
the reduction of silver ion content not affect the efficiency of kill rate?  
eg; high positively charged ionic component as opposed to a more 'neutral' 
particulate component?

 

3) Was a time recorded between the initial incorporation of EIS/CS into the mix 
prior to cooking, and the beginning of the cooking process? eg; was the EIS/CS 
introduced, and the mix left for several minutes prior to the beginning of the 
cooking process?  This I hypothesise would affect the percentage of kill rate, 
temperature perhaps becoming less relevant or important.

 

Thank You for your anticipated indulgence.

 

N.
 
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:31:06 -0400
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: CS>Pathogen Abatement Comment
> 
> Although this information may not be of great moment for a large number
> of list members, I believe it to be of enough potential value to pass it on. 
> During some earlier research
> on undesirable pathogen invasion of common foodstuffs, we determined that 
> noxious pathogens such as E coli
> can survive the applied heat ranges employed to lightly cook some common 
> foods. e.g. Scrambled eggs.
> We conducted some simple tests to determine the survivability of several 
> pathogens, but our main interest was centered on E Coli. Additionally, I had 
> a pronounced personal interest....due to fact I practically live on eggs, as 
> my principal protein source. It was scrambled eggs in which we had the 
> greatest interest.
> Our methodology utilized both cooked...and uncooked....egg mediums. The 
> uncooked specimens were
> addressed mainly to determine the effectiveness of low strength level CS (10 
> ppm) against E Coli. We quickly 
> established that 10 ppm CS, at 10 ppm concentration, incorporated directly 
> with whole eggs and thoroughly mixed (beaten with a whisk for about 10 to 15 
> seconds).....yielded very acceptable results. To wit: 90% control within 6 to 
> 10 minutes @ 80 degrees F. The mixture ratio was, essentially, 1 level 
> teaspoon CS per one medium-size egg. 
> Our results were less favorable in specimens of non-mixed/beaten (whole 
> intact egg contents)egg cultures.
> Interestingly, bacteria control was clearly defined and only present in the 
> areas/interfaces of "direct exposure" to the CS and the geography of the 
> presence of the CS was evident upon optical examination. Also, quite 
> interesting was the fact that the E Coli culture under the bottom of the egg 
> (among the unbeaen specimens)was inhibited only around the outside edges of 
> the egg specimen.
> Although this was expected, it was reassuring that our earlier research on 
> the absorption/penetration affecting the
> effectiveness of CS....was clearly in evidence. 
> And now....to the central theme of my post-----How to prepare scrambled 
> eggs----in a manner which mitigates against contamination from a host of 
> possible pathogens....especially E Coli.
> Using one teaspoon of 5 - 10 ppm CS for each egg, beat 
> together---briskly---for 12 to 15 seconds and
> pour into a skillet at medium heat setting. Stir continually until cooked to 
> desired order. Even in those cases where
> the eggs were "lightly" scrambled----- that is, cases where Laser-type 
> indicators revealed actual temperatures below 120 degrees F. in some 
> areas....E. Coli control of 95% manifested. 
> Not only is this simple procedure desirable and effective, it is "high-end" 
> culinary practice. Capable chefs have known...for decades...that mixing one 
> teaspoon of tap-water with an egg to be scrambled, results in a superior
> dish.
> Some list members may raise the contention that eggs are immune to E Coli 
> contamination....because the
> shell prevents infiltration. While a high measure of protection does, indeed, 
> exist in UNWASHED eggs, such is rarely
> so when using "store-purchased" eggs. Almost without exception, ALL eggs 
> purchased in the supermarket environment,
> have been washed with surfactants/detergents prior to packaging. This 
> procedure insures the eggshell is at least
> semi-permeable and a candidate for transfer/reception of bacterial agents. 
> Admittedly, SOME eggs are coated with
> non-toxic sealants, prior to sale....but only in High-End or specialty 
> groceries.
> In any event, I consider this little innovation to be of sufficient value to 
> encourage its adoption.
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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