Thanks for this Steve.  I will read up on it.

Dan

On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Norton, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> There is no simple solution that I know of. There is no whole house practical 
> solution that I know of. For drinking water the primary methods are 
> distillation, activated Alumina (aluminum oxide), reverse osmosis, fluoride 
> ion exchange resin and bone char. You can purchase the RO, activated Alumina 
> or fluoride ion exchange resin systems. For DIY the bone char is fairly easy 
> to use. Bone char also removes a number of other contaminants. See:
> http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/bone_char
> http://www.buyactivatedcharcoal.com/bone_char_20x60mesh
>
> But fluoride is readily absorbed through the skin so if you have fluoride in 
> your house water you will still get some fluoride internally. I think that 
> the best options lie in reducing fluoride ingestion as much as you can and 
> then augmenting it with supplements that eliminate fluoride from the body. 
> Perhaps the best for this is iodine supplementation This will also remove 
> excess bromide as well as the fluoride.
>
> http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_2003_May/ai_100767875
>
> "With 3 tablets, the 24h excretion of fluoride was 17.5 times baseline level; 
> and for bromide, 18 times baseline level. These high levels persisted even 
> after one month of supplementation at 3 tablets/day, being 15 times baseline 
> level for fluoride, and 16 times for bromide. After one month, the estimated 
> total amount of halide excreted was 24 mg fluoride and 8700mg bromide."
>
>
> Some other substances that help eliminate fluoride are borax and the Tamarind 
> fruit.
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11840184?dopt=Abstract
>
> http://fluoridationqueensland.com/blog/fluoridating-queenslands-water-supplies/
>
> "Boron effectively counteracts symptoms of fluoride intoxication in humans 
> (Zhou et al. 1987) and in experimentally poisoned rabbits (Elsair et al. 
> 1980a, 1980b, 1981). Humans suffering from skeletal fluorosis experienced 50 
> to 80% improvement after drinking solutions containing 300 to 1,100 mg of 
> borax/L daily, 3 weeks a month for 3 months (Zhou et al. 1987). Boron 
> enhances sequestration of fluoride from bone and excretion through kidneys 
> and possibly the intestinal tract (Elair et al. 1980a, 1981)."
>
>
> The method for using borax is to dissolve the borax 1/32 teaspoon to 1/4 
> teaspoon in one liter of drinking water and drink throughout the day. A 
> woman's dose is 1/8 tsp, a man's dose is 1/4 tsp dissolved in one liter of 
> drinking water.
>
>  - Steve N
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Nave [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:01 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CS>Pesticide filter uses silver nanoparticles
>
> Sure, distillation.
>
> Anything else?  What about that stuff you add to fish tank water to
> neutralize the chlorine?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Garnet_LDN <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Distillation.
>>
>> www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com
>>
>> They have a one gallon counter top distiller for ~$100, even available with
>> a glass
>> collection jug.
>>
>> Janet
>>
>>
>> Dan Nave wrote:
>>>
>>> Steve,
>>>
>>> Are you aware of any methods to remove fluoride from city water?
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Norton, Steve <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is interesting. A study has shown that silver nanoparticles
>>>> completely
>>>> remove endosulfan, malathion and chlorpyrifos from water. The mechanism
>>>> of
>>>> removal is adsorption followed by catalytic destruction. A household
>>>> filter
>>>> that uses the technology to remove pesticides from water has been
>>>> developed.
>>>>
>>>> -       Steve N
>>>>
>>>> http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2007/April/20040701.asp
>>>>
>>>> Pesticide filter debuts in India
>>>>
>>>> A domestic water filter that uses metal nanoparticles to remove dissolved
>>>> pesticide residues is about to enter the Indian market. Its developers at
>>>> the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) in Chennai (formerly Madras)
>>>> believe it is the first product of its kind in the world to be
>>>> commercialised.
>>>>
>>>> Mumbai-based Eureka Forbes Limited, a company that sells water
>>>> purification
>>>> systems, is collaborating with IIT and has tested the device in the field
>>>> for over six months. Jayachandra Reddy, a technical consultant to the
>>>> company, expects the first 1000 units to be sold door-to-door from late
>>>> May.
>>>>
>>>> 'Our pesticide filter is an offshoot of basic research on the chemistry
>>>> of
>>>> nanoparticles,' Thalappil Pradeep who led the team at IIT Chennai
>>>> told Chemistry World. He and his student Sreekumaran Nair discovered in
>>>> 2003
>>>> that halocarbons such as carbon tetrachloride (CCl4) completely break
>>>> down
>>>> into metal halides and amorphous carbon upon reaction with gold and
>>>> silver
>>>> nanoparticles1.
>>>>
>>>> Pradeep said this prompted them to extend their study to include
>>>> organochlorine and organophosphorous pesticides, whose presence in water
>>>> is
>>>> posing a health risk in rural India. In research funded by the Department
>>>> of
>>>> Science and Technology in New Delhi, his team found2,3 that gold and
>>>> silver
>>>> nanoparticles loaded on alumina were indeed able to completely remove
>>>> endosulfan, malathion and chlorpyrifos - three pesticides that have been
>>>> found at elevated levels in Indian water supplies.
>>>>
>>>> Use and recycle
>>>>
>>>> The mechanism of removal is 'adsorption followed by catalytic
>>>> destruction',
>>>> Pradeep explained. 'The chemistry occurs in a wide concentration range of
>>>> environmental significance.' He added that tests proved silver particles
>>>> from the filter are not released into the water. The IIT study found that
>>>> gold particles perform better in the case of endosulfan. However, for
>>>> cost
>>>> reasons, the commercialised filters use only silver particles, which
>>>> range
>>>> in size from 60 to 80 nanometres at a concentration (on their alumina
>>>> support) of 33 parts per million.
>>>>
>>>> 'Based on consumption patterns of a typical Indian household, the filter
>>>> is
>>>> designed to have enough nanomaterials to provide 6000 litres of
>>>> pesticide-free water for one year,' Pradeep said. 'After that, the
>>>> company
>>>> will recycle the filters to recover the silver.'
>>>>
>>>> Use of nanoparticles for environmental remediation is an emerging area of
>>>> research worldwide. Nanoscale iron powders had been shown to degrade
>>>> other
>>>> pesticides, including DDT and lindane4, 'and there are reports about the
>>>> use
>>>> of nanomaterials for removing arsenic, heavy metals and fluorides,' said
>>>> Pradeep. 'But ours is the first product to hit the market,' he said.
>>>>
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