Hello Tim! Welcome to the group! 

The only way a newsgroup, or this list, could be more controlled is
if I (or a team of moderators) read and approved each posting before
it could go out. This by itself would slow things to a crawl.

Plus, by the nature of usenet news, messages would take days or more
to propagate to the entire usenet world, meaning we would totally
*lose* the near-real-time exchanges we take for granted here.

You wrote:

> More often than not, replies to the thread in this list, have
> nothing to do with the thread!

The same as in any forum where the listowner doesn't massage every
message before it goes out. I've elected not to put the list in full 
moderation mode for the sake of the responsiveness I mentioned above.

I rely on the fact that it is a privelege to post on the list, and 
that I can remove any individual at any time if they abuse it. This 
leads to responsible behavior and considerate use, most of the time.

We always *can* do better with subject lines and OT stuff. But more 
on that below...

> With a newsgroup, you would have the ability to subscribe to the
> group; get the message headers, then open only the ones you were
> interested in, instead of having your mailbox filled with junk that
> you have to delete individually, ( not wanting to miss anything
> good).

Actually, the key to using mailing lists well is learning how to
organize your e-mail. 

Do you use MS Outlook, Eudora, Pegasus Mail, Forte Agent? These are
e-mail programs I know for a fact will sort your incoming mail so
each mailing list ends up in a separate folder or mailbox. This
avoids the whole "mailbox filled with junk" deal. 

These filter or sorting functions, sometimes combined with 
the "twit filter" feature, are a vital tool to sane list use.

I open each folder in turn -- when I'm interested -- scan for good
looking threads, read what I want, and delete or keep what I choose.
Once a month or so I delete any unread messages over "x" weeks old
since I'm never going to get to them anyway and I don't want my disk
to fill up.

It's fantastic once you get the hang of setting it up in your e-mail
program.

> Actually, two newsgroups would be better. 
...
> The silver list is growing, because silver works.
> 
> Soon, the silver list will become unmanageable.

You read my mind (and others')! I am in the process of getting the 
silver list archived so folks can search for past discussions. That's 
step one.

Step two is fleshing out the web site to provide a place for
newcomers to get grounded in the subject, to store the FAQ's, and 
provide a place to post experimental results. Sort of a repository 
for the "consensus of the list."

Step three, which is not far off, is to start an alternative health
list as a sister to the silver-list, where most of the off topic
stuff we get here will be *on* topic. The goal will be to provide the
same sort of sheltered, cooperative environment we have formed here.

With all this, volume on the silver list will go down some and S/N 
ratio will go up. We'd still have a place for all these freewheeling 
discussions.

But one thing that will never disappear is a certain level of 
"noise", in the form of OT questions and chit chat. Some of this is 
necessary to keep the sense of community going. Without that, we lose 
more than you can imagine.

That's the plan, anyway. If you can see any way to make it happen
faster, I'm open to collaboration!! <GRIN>

> I believe in it, use it, make it, don't sell it..
> 
>  Let's get a newsgroup.

If you can show me how it will improve things, I'd consider it. But I 
think we're going to get the bases covered by another route. 

The concerns you have are right on as is your analysis of the future, 
IMHO. Hopefully we'll be ready for it. Thanks for the ideas!

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                       ]
[Speaking only for myself...              ]


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