The salient point is that Cancema is a trade name for a particular
product. Centreforce uses that trade name. It's obviously a
misleading business practice.
The current site makes this perfectly clear:
http://health.centreforce.com/health/cansemaorder.html
I find this highly objectionable.
Many competitors can produce their own remedies and market them under
whatever name they wish, but it is wrong to use the trade name of
another company.
Potter could call his product "Centreforce Salve" or something else.
The salves he sells are not Cancema. That's quite simple.
Altcancer.com is beyond honorable in offering refunds to purchasers of
falsely labeled "Cancema" products. Again, if the owner of
Centreforce were really determined to be honoroable in his business
dealings, he could call his product anything but Cancema.
As Greg Caton of altcancer.com has been imprisoned again, he'll not be
able to deal with such problems himself. His wife runs the operation
on her own for the time being.
On Tuesday, Sep 14, 2010, at 16:11 Asia/Tokyo, Rowena wrote:
I totally reject the "false cansema" claim in respect of Centreforce,
but thankyou, Jonathan, for your good intent in "warning" me about the
company.
In fact, I went to the altcancer site quite some time ago to make a
purchase in order to support and honour its founder in his renewed
business life, but when I saw what was written there I left the site
and decided not to do business there.
When he was in prison, who thought he would ever be able to do
business again? But some "kept the flag flying" and produced the
black salve. OK, maybe in hindsight using the Cansema name was a
mistake, but it was honouring the "memory" of who and what had gone
before, believing that the Cansema empire was destroyed.
The fact is that the Centreforce "Cansema" salve worked, and worked
well.
When he got out of prison and picked up the business again, he not
only complained, he vilified. It was a long time before he withdrew
his Centreforce accusations from his website (if he has). In the
meantime, Centreforce had been in touch but were ignored, from memory.
I wish him well, but I don't want to do business with hotheads. I'm
sorry he's hysterical, but it's not my fault and I don't need my blood
pressure affected by reading what he has to say and how he says it (or
said it, when I visited his site, which I don't propose doing again).
I absolutely oppose the "naming and shaming" of Centreforce in his
lists. I had been familiar with the story of Bevan Potter for some
years, and why he went into the business of making this salve. I
might add that in Queensland when the cockies (farmers) get a skin
cancer, they just put cansema on it. They are not specifiying a
brand, they are just calling an anti-cancer black salve cansema.
Centreforce black salve DOES work. We are witness to that. And Bevan
Potter honoured the memory and achievements of the altcancer guy in
writing and even in naming the salve. That is just what it was called
over there, any such salve with those ingredients. Potter wasn't
taking the credit himself.
I was as surprised as anyone - and glad, in fact - when this person
was let out of jail and went back into business. He may well have had
reason to be angry with people he knew who had done him wrong. I
question the wisdom of spreading his complaints across the net, but
it's his life. But as far as I am aware, he refused for a very, very
long time to enter into dialogue with Bevan Potter or remove the
accusations he was making. This story of polite letters is not
historical as far as I am aware.
About any other company, I don't know. I am here to say only that in
the case of Centreforce Salve, as produced by Bevan Potter of
Queensland, the salve is effective. The intent was honourable, and
based on Potter's own life experience and enthusiasm.
And I still won't be doing business with the "original" maker, even
though he does offer some things I am very interested in. He blotted
his human being copybook too well. I'm sorry for that, but that sort
of talk makes me ill, and I don't propose letting flamers do that if I
can help it.
Rowena
On 14/09/2010 7:30 AM, Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
From Altcancer.com website:
Fake Product Compensation Program Announced
The success of AO Lab products in the alternative health care
community is well-established. (A Google search for Cansema® yields
over 9,000 pages . . . it takes several hours just to read our four
web pages of customer testimonials connected to Cansema®).
There is no success that does not attract opportunistic imitators. The
legal attack against AO Labs by the FDA in 2003 attracted several such
imitators. Because Cansema® has been in use since we created it in
1991 and we are the holder of the U.S. trademark, we sent polite
letters to various violators to cease and desist in using our web
pages, copyrighted material, and trademarks.
Our pleas have been ignored.
The most serious aspect of these violations is that the imitations
don't work as well, if they work at all. They are not the original
product. For a period of four years, we attempted to work with the FDA
to put a stop to the fraud. We even sent them a small sampling of the
hundreds of complaint letters we received.
They did nothing.
Because of the adulteration and misbranding involved in the McAdams
operation -- whose primary sites are Bloodroot Products.com and
RisingSun Health.com -- we can only assume that this is an FDA
renegade operation is to permit, foster, and protect illegal product.
By working less effectively, they will hopefully convince people that
alternatives are inferior to mainstream pharmaceuticals. This would
make perfectly good sense and is consistent with their overall modus
operandi, as documented in numerous books by Lynne McTaggart, Leonard
Horowitz, John Abramson, Joseph Mercola, John Morgenthaler -- to name
just a few.
Please see our Compensation for Fake Product page if you have
purchased product from the following or any other companies illegally
using our trademarks, Cansema®, CanSupport (TM), Alpha Omega Labs
(TM), or our domain names: altcancer.com (TM), herbhealers.com (TM),
or alphaomegalabs.com (TM).
BloodrootProducts.com
RisingSunProducts.com
AltCancerCream.com
Jennifer Wilson (Australia)
George S. Ackerson
(FDA informant)
Health.Centreforce.com
On Monday, Sep 13, 2010, at 15:43 Asia/Tokyo, Rowena wrote:
Presumably this was squamous cell? Anyway, we treated successfully
with a black salve now called Centreforce from Queensland, but same
ingredients as Cansema, and called cansema at the time. Lasts for
years, and if anything appears again, can be treated again very >
easily.
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