Jim Holmes wrote:
Ode, Marshall,
Please comment.
Jim
On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:26 PM, Norton, Steve <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I came across this at the Earth Clinic site and thought it might be of
interest.
- Steve N
http://www.earthclinic.com/Supplements/colloidal_silver_questions.html
"Ted from Bangkok, Thailand replies: "Agyria is a common problem with
using a straight batch of colloidal silver, often the skin is not
really
blue, it is closer to gray color.
This statement is false, argyria from true CS is almost unheard of.
The problem occurs when a free silver
ions react with the sulfur in your body to from AgS, or silver
sulfide.
False. Silver does not react with elemental sulfur. You can take silver
and put it into flowers of sulfur and there is no reaction at all. Now
silver will react with the sulfur if the sulfur is in an activated
state, instead of bound firmly with something like MSM. But there is
normally little if any reactive sulfur in the body, the primary place
you can find it would be in the colon as hydrogen sulfide, the rotten
egg gas.
Most colloidal silver produced are actually either a nonreactive
Ag or a
reactive Ag with a charge, then it reacts with the body's available
sulfur to cause a "blue skin", more more accurately is "gray skin".
We normally call it colloidal silver, or ionic silver. Ionic silver does
not normally react with the sulfur in the body, the sulfur is too
tightly bound. Even if it did it would not cause argyria because first
of all the particle size is going to be only two atoms, and this small
particle will not get stuck anywhere. Also it would form throughout the
body, not just at the sking where sunlight is available. Argyria is
caused by the photographic process, not silver sulfide.
This problem can be prevented, which I solved over a decade ago, which
required that a couple of drops of hydrogen peroxide is added to a
liter
of colloidal silver. The peroxide, reacts with the FREE silver ions to
form Silver Oxide.
That is incorrect, the ionic silver which is what has the ions is
ALREADY silver oxide. It does react with it though and produces 2 atom
colloidal silver.
When I first add this, I get a cloudly solution,
That is because he is not waiting long enough after making it for the
silver hydroxide to convert to silver oxide and colloid.
and
after three days, this cloudy solution becomes a clear white
transparent
water.
This we are aware of.
However, an unreacted Ag or Silver in a solution will show itself
is a faint yellow transparent solution.
This is because the H2O2 converts large colloidal particles to silver
oxide, and silver oxide to 2 particle colloid. The 2 particle colloid
has a very very faint tyndall.
So this ia an easy way to tell.
If you add a drop of H2O2 into this it becomes cloudy.
Not if you wait for it to stabilize first.
However, if the
solution is Silver oxide, it won't become cloudy as there is no longer
any "free" silver ions.
That is incorrect, the cloudiness is actually silver oxide precipitant
because the amount exceeds the 13 ppm solubility of silver oxide.
When they are no longer free, it won't react
with the body's sulfur to form silver oxide.
This is backwards, since cloudiness is caused by an oversaturated
solution of silver oxide, a clear solution will have less, not more of
it. Also the reason most EIS does not react with the body's sulfur is
that it is not available, it is already bound heavily by other elements
in the body.
Hence, if a hydrogen
peroxide, at least, is added to the colloidal silver you buy, the
silver
is no longer free, and the condition of blue skin or gray skin or
agyria
is prevented.
This is not correct. There are both ionic and colloidal silver present
both before and after adding the H2O2. The only difference is that the
colloidal particles will be smaller after adding it If one is getting
argyria from store bought "cs" then it is mislabeled and not really cs,
but likely MSP.
However, there is ANOTHER way, that DOES NOT REQUIRE you to wait for
three days to fully digest the free Silver. When I make a batch of
colloidal silver, using the silver wire or silver rods as an electrode
using any D.C. adapter, the BEGINNING solution is distilled water
with a
0.5% H2O2 concentration, which is 1/2 percent H2O2 concentration, or
approximate amount such as one tablespoon (plastic spoons!) of 3% H2O2
in a 1 or 1.5 liter of colloidal silver is generally sufficient, to
prevent any free metal silver form occuring.
First of all plastic spoons are normally teaspoons not tablespoons,
which are 1/3 as big. If he is starting with normally available H2O2
which is 3% then he does not have .5%, but rather 1/200th of 3% which is
.015%. Ode has tried this and reports that it flakes out, literally.
It should be noted that a silver oxide may have a better antibacterial
properties and less staining problems then the use of pure silver.
Not sure what is meant by pure silver. If he means something like a
silver coin then we all know that. If he means EIS then that makes no
sense since EIS typically contains about 45% silver oxide and 45% silver
hydroxide to start with.
So in
practice, the use of COLLOIDAL SILVER OXIDE, is the one I actually use
and relatively problem free.
That is what EIS is already, whether you add H2O2 or not.
For example, if a free silver has too much
charges, I have noted that constipation occurs if taken too much of
colloidal silver with FREE SILVER, but this doesn't happen (within
reason such as NOT DRINKING liters of it!) if a COLLOIDAL silver oxide
is prepared."
That is because the H2O2 breaks up the large colloidal particles, so
that they can move into the blood stream instead of going to the colon.
It has nothing to do with the silver oxide which converts to silver
chloride immediately upon reaching the acid of the stomach.
Marshall
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