Dear Paul,
It is encouraging to observe list researchers...such as
yourself.....experimenting with
existing devices in an effort to obtain devices superior to what the
market customarily
offers.
Since we have not attempted to use materials generated from
"circulating" water
structuring material in a confined container---I cannot offer useful
comment on the efficacy of such an approach.
All of our material has been produced via a "one-pass" arrangement
wherein the subject material
is exposed to both a magnetic field and vortex
formation.....simultaneously.....one-time only.
My principal concern for using any form of " standing-wave"
vortex would be possible destabilizing effects
occurring because of possible non-laminar flow manifesting as a result
of chaotic mixing at the bottom
of the vortex. The question becomes, What is the actual effect of
continuous re-introduction....from the centrifugal discharge at the
bottom vortex section........ of the liquid components? I have no
real idea. It would, indeed, be interesting to determine if one could
be "reinforcing" the structuring phenomenon, or "continually
disrupting" the structuring process----through the use of such a
device as your modified blender?
My apologies for being unable to assist you further in
this, particular, matter.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 6:49 PM, paul catania <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Brooks and group,
>
>
>
> I don't know what the inside of a "vitalizer plus" looks like, but after
> reading your suggestions, I started to play around with an old blender of
> mine. I took out the bottom criss-crossed blade assembly, and with a pair of
> pliers, made the cross shaped blades parallel so that both blades were one
> on top of another, facing in the same direction. I then tried to bend the
> ends of each up as far as I could, so as to end up with two U shaped blades,
> one slightly bigger than the other, on top of each other, facing in the same
> direction.
>
> Filling the container up with water, placing the blender on the low setting,
> and pulsing the lowest speed button, produces a nice little vortex. I also
> placed a heavy rubber band on the outside of the receptacle to hold two of
> Peter Kulish's magnets, 180 degrees apart from each other.
>
> According to your research, Brooks, can this be a valid method of producing
> structured water?
>
> Can I use plain tap water with a pinch of Himalayan sea salt?
>
> How can I measure the quality, or lack thereof, of the water produced?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: SO>STRUCTURED VORTEX WATER DEVICES
>
>
>> Dear Paul,
>> About 15 years ago, inspired by the works of Walter
>> Schauberger....we investigated (extensively) a number of various
>> means for "structuring" ordinary tap-water. By structuring, I mean
>> modifying the micro-particle spectrum of what is, sometimes, referred
>> to
>> as the crystal-structure of water. Briefly, the theory is to modify
>> the alignment of the atomic/sub-atomic particle structure of
>> water....from
>> a random/chaotic...to an arranged linear relationship. We employed a
>> number of different approaches, including charged electrical fields;
>> chemically-seeded catalyst solutions and various vortex-based
>> approaches. Some success was achieved from most of the approaches.
>> However, the most cost-effective...by far.....proved to be a simple
>> permanent-magnet X physical vortex generation system----available to
>> the DIY
>> person-----for several dollars.
>> The theory-of-operation is simply to expose a liquid
>> experiencing a vortex geometry.......to a relatively-high, fixed
>> magnetic field.
>> The most operationally acceptable, cost-limiting system we were able
>> to facilitate consisted of two 2 liter soft-drink bottles (connected
>> to-to-top),
>> with the top bottle having two "strong" rare-earth or neodymium
>> magnets taped in a 180 degree relation, as close to the bottle mouth
>> as physically
>> acceptable. One physical modification was employed on the "top"
>> bottle. The modification was to cut the bottom (which becomes the top)
>> of the
>> upper bottom----off, to form a funnel of desired size. It makes no
>> difference which magnet has its N or S pole facing in....so long as
>> the OTHER
>> magnet has the opposite pole facing the first magnet. In our initial
>> experiments, we,simply, placed the TOP section facing down (neck with
>> magnets attached)
>> against the bottom (with its opening facing UP) and taped the assembly
>> together ---at the joint---with electrical tape. The candidate water
>> sample was
>> just poured into the top of the funnel section at a "slight" angle
>> (clockwise rotation proved best) to establish the initial vortex
>> generation---and emptied the
>> liquid sample. Later, we obtained commercial connectors (with two
>> female ends fused together) for a very nominal cost.......to replace
>> our home-made
>> connection assembly.
>> There were multiple modifications evident in the
>> "structured" water from the bottom container. Most notable was a
>> decrease in surface tension, with
>> its corresponding increase in "solubility" characteristics of the water
>> proper.
>> This protocol DID NOT, of itself, modify the existing ph of
>> the water sample candidates, however, the improved "solvent effect" of
>> the water
>> proved to be of large benefit (sometimes 200 percent). The mineral
>> content of the candidate water samples DID make a difference in the
>> actual
>> degree of improved solvency.......but improvement presented in EVERY
>> case exposed to this methodology.
>> We were, through the implementation of electrical
>> stimulation procedures....to make very acceptable alkaline water.
>> However, my present comments
>> are restricted to structural modifications only.
>> I hope these comments have been
>> of use to some of the membership.
>> Sincerely, Brooks
>> Bradley.
>> p.s. I believe it to be of some moment to mention that we have
>> evaluated a number of the commercial units (both structured water
>> types Only, and Combination Units
>> claimed to address both ph and physical structuring),,,,,all with
>> varying degrees of success. Our greatest criticism being that they
>> were ALL, horrendously OVERPRICED
>> for the levels of performance obtained. At least that was our
>> conclusion. I would add that we have...for years now. utilized the
>> above-mentioned Magnet X Funnel system
>> for treating our CS......as we pour it up after initial generation.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, paul catania <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone familiar with vortex structured water devices? I am really
>>> confused by how many there are, how similar they look and by how much
>>> variation there is in price. I'm including links to some of the ones I
>>> looked at. I would appreciate comments on any of the devices
>>> individually,
>>> and/or the technology as a whole.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.futuretechtoday.com/health/Products/Water-Products/structured-water-unit.html
>>> http://www.structuredwaterunit.com/
>>> http://ultimatestructuredwater.com/home_unit.htm
>>> http://photonicwater.com/
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>>
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