God bless you Mike for your voice of reason. It's really easy to become
quite intimidated by the tech talk for a newbie. I'm not a scientist and
won't pretend to be one now or ever. I think it takes a certain talent
to adhere to strict guidelines time after time and god bless those
people who do so. We will all benefit from their perseverance. 

I don't know how electricity works either. All I know is I turn the
switch on and the room lights up. It's magic. :) 

Diane

"M. G. Devour" wrote:
> 
> To Bob, and Bob, and Marsha, and Chuck, and Vikki and Heather, and
> all who've been probing one another's hot spots or defending the
> probees...
> 
> Peace, my friends.
> 
> We *are* moving in the direction of standards for the very good
> reasons that Bob and Vikki and I and others cite.
> 
> We are *also* planning to keep simple instructions available for the
> new folks *and* make them as standardized and the output as well
> quantified as possible as we go along. That's always been the goal.
> 
> Marsha and Ivan and Chuck and Heather and all who are willing to help
> the newbies along the path: Thank you. We need you and you're best
> suited for the task.
> 
> But please, hold out hope for the "techies". When the results start
> to trickle down we'll have even *better* information to give the new
> ones, and they will be able to have more confidence in the results
> they will get.
> 
> Here's the goal: To maintain a dual character for the list.
> On the one hand, the serious work of trying to understand CS and
> refine our methods, and on the other hand, sustaining a welcoming
> and helpful environment for newcomers.
> 
> Which is more important? Wrong question!
> 
> Which could we possibly afford to do without: Helping people now, or
> learning more so we can help people better?!
> 
> The answer is obvious.
> 
> We've each got a role to play. I'm *sooo* encouraged to see you
> taking on so many tasks and responsibilities, folks! The work gets
> done.
> 
> I can't always spare the energy to help the newcomers. So, please
> keep giving them a hand. If there's a problem we have it's getting
> them to speak up and let us know they're there.
> 
> Always the message has to be "Don't worry about the tech talk, the
> simplest setup will work if you try it."
> 
> And let's hope we can keep experimenting and developing, ***and
> documenting and publishing*** new results. The better we can answer
> those recurring newbie questions, the more documentation we have, the
> more people we'll be able to help.
> 
> Please, everyone, respect what the others are doing and have to
> offer. Even if you don't agree to its value, it's part of the whole
> that is this mailing list community. I mean to say this to *every*
> *one* of you!
> 
> We've got it good. It's hard to appreciate just how good things are
> right now. And there's hope for it to get better. If the good Lord's
> willing, there'll be time for that to happen.
> 
> In any case, we're all doing the best we can, and that's not too
> bad. No, not bad at all...
> 
> Be well,
> 
> Mike D.
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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> [Speaking only for myself...              ]
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