Hi Mike:
After three emails of personal insults from Mike, long before the nebulizer
issue, I simply got tired of the escalating language.
If you start with this thread:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg142456.html
...and follow it from there, I'm sure you'll see what I mean.
There are things that some people say that need to be challenged, for the
betterment of all, and I believe I did it in a very respectful and civil
way, especially since nobody else seemed to pay much attention.
That third set of insults and I'd had enough. Even then, I think my email
was very responsible.
If I can't tell someone in a stern polite voice that I don't appreciate
being personally insulted, and that I'm done with the situation, I'm not
sure what you'd expect me to do.
If you look at the comments he made to Jonathan and David, they are not only
equally unjustified, but very bullying.
I don't like bullies, and I don't tolerate bullying, even when the school
principal isn't looking.
Please take a few moments and review Mike's posts for the last two days.
Kind Regards,
Jason
----- Original Message -----
From: "M. G. Devour" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 15:31
Subject: CS>[List Owner] Caution, please... Mike, David, Jason, others...
Greetings folks! Long time since I've had to wade into the list on this
kind of mission! Thank you for that fact, and to the several members
who gave me the heads-up so promptly.
In catching up with the messages I was a bit surprised and disappointed
to see the first intemperate remarks coming from Jason, of all people,
in his too-vigorous rebuttal of Mike Monett's speculations about
possible hazards of nebulizing CS.
(Jason, if by chance the order of things in my mail program distorted
the sequence of events and you feel there was some other provocation
besides his nebulizing assertion, feel free to let me know.)
I tend to agree that nebulizing has an excellent track record, and that
Mike's statements were an example of unwarranted certituded by logic
rather than empirical evidence: Much clinical AND anecdotal experience
plus known information about the actual solubility of the supposedly
insoluble silver compounds involved, lead me to doubt Mike's
assertions.
Here's the problem when folks with a lot of training, experience,
and/or expertise with overlapping but not congruent competencies start
stepping into each others' areas of interest and on each others' toes:
The next thing you know we've got external genital appendages wagging
around and egos engaged, and all progress goes out the window!
Stop it!
Now, Mike, I want to address you specifically:
I think your specifications for the device are wonderfully crafted and
your intention of releasing it to the public domain and seeking its
widespread use by the neediest are an exquisite example of the merging
of responsible engineering and activism. Thank you, it's a good plan.
But keep in mind that the universe and the powers that be will be more
than happy to sabotage such humane intentions and the first place it
will try to do this is within you...
Want to collaborate successfully with folks from this group? Use our
forum to help promote your project? Great! You're welcome.
DON'T, however, let yourself succumb to the temptation to engage with
both fists the moment somebody steps on your toes. People WILL disagree
on things, including things you hold dear. Let them. The truth will
carry the day, for or against your ideas. That's as it should be.
Your nastiness to David A. was uncalled for and unprovoked. He's well
within the charter of the group, and you're not the referee of what's
appropriate, nor are you in a competent position to judge the
circumstances he is dealing with. Be supportive or leave it be.
Jonathan effectively raised the same reasonable questions about
nebulizing peroxide that you are concerned with -- without the ad-
hominem that sabotages your credibility and effectiveness.
Take his example to heart.
All right, I used all the big words I could think of, just to make sure
all you experts could 'grok' what I'm saying. <grin> Let's see if we
can actually stay on target and stop chaos from winning, just this
once, okay?
Peace,
Mike D.
List owner
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected] ]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
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