Trem <[email protected]> wrote:

  >Hello Mike,

  > I knew you'd have criticisms. I use 2 mils of current because I've
  > determined empirically that 1-2 mils per square inch is  just fine
  > with rapid water movement. I can even go higher with that unit but
  > decided to stick with the highest value that produces  the fastest
  > production rate without problems

  > I use VIGOROUS stirring to avoid what you call the Nernst layer.

  The Nernst  layer  is  extremely   thin,  perhaps  only  hundreds of
  nanometers thick.  It  is  within  the  boundary  layer  and  is not
  affected by stirring.

  > Apparently it allows me to get very high uS measurements  which as
  > far as I'm concerned is NOT contamination.

  How do you know that? You have done nothing to prove your  system is
  free of contamination.

  > Frank has tested a sample of the product but not at the HIGH  uS I
  > occasionally make.

  He measured 14uS, and one other member also got the same  value. You
  claim your unit makes 20. Why the difference?

  > He tested  a sample from one of our customers.  It  measured 98.6%
  > ionic so that would explain weak/no Tyndall. There is some loss of
  > conductivity over  a short period of time but  once  stabilized it
  > usually stays stable.

  The loss  in  conductivity  may  be due  to  silver  sulfide  on the
  electrodes.

  When was the last time you desulfurized the electrodes?

  > And I  don't need to use salt to tell there's silver in  the water
  > if the water has no conductivity at start-up and high conductivity
  > at the  end  of  the  cycle.   I  trust  the  meter.  Cloudy water
  > comparisons to determine strength don't cut it for me.

  The fact the conductance changes would also occur with leaching from
  the plumbing, contamination from the jug, leakage from the pump, and
  many other sources.

  The salt  test  is  immune   to  contamination,  and  is  a reliable
  indication of the amount of silver in the solution.

  You also  have never performed a Faraday calculation, so  you cannot
  compare the  readings  you  get from the Hanna  with  the  amount of
  silver released from the anodes.

  You have no idea what you are really producing.

  If you are really producing 45+Us, why is no other vendor  using the
  same process?

  Why does  Frank not show any product reports with values as  high as
  you claim?

  > And as  you say, the PWT meter cannot tell the  difference between
  > minerals (contamination)  and silver ions so the  measurement MUST
  > be silver ions.

  That is  a false assumption. You can put salt in the dw and  get the
  same reading.  There is no silver in salt, so you  cannot  claim the
  reading shows how much silver is in the solution.

  You need  to take very careful steps to show your system is  free of
  contamination. You have not done so.

  > Now, please leave me alone. I do not have the time for this.

  You are the one who made the claim and posted it.

  You have time to make claims of the performance of your  system, but
  not enough time to prove they are correct?

  That is a rather risky business model, don't you think?

  >Trem

  Mike


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