On 12/4/2011 11:30 PM, Alchemysa wrote:
As far as I'm concerned its anything that contains colloids, either as
pure silver or silver compounds. A silver oxide or silver hydroxide
particle in water would therefore qualify. It doesn't matter how its
made. LV, HV or made by dissolving silver in nitric acid. As long as
the particles don't sink to the bottom then they are 'colloids'.
A colloid by definition is a sol. Although silver oxide particles can
form a colloid, it is not stable, and they precipitate out when they
exceed about 20 ppm. I am not aware of any silver compound that can
make a stable colloid. Some dissolve, and some are insoluble, and of
course only the limited or insoluble ones could make a colloid, but I do
not know any that can make a stable one.
LVDC contains plenty of colloids. Thats is easily determined with a
laser, and thats the end of that argument as far as I'm concerned.
All the other 'claimed requirements' to qualify as a 'colloid silver
product' are just advertising hype. You can also have as much ionic
silver also in the bottle as you like. There is no rule that says what
the ionic/particle ratio should be. Silver ions instantly become
silver chloride colloids the moment they hit the bloodstream anyway.
No you should not have as much ionic as you want. Since you are limited
to around 20 ppm of silver oxide/hydroxide by its solubility, any
additional would have to be in another ionic form, such as silver
citrate or silver nitrate. Those two can easily cause argyria, and the
nitrate is poisonous. Silver ions will become silver chloride if the
compound is silver oxide, silver hydroxide, or silver nitrate. However
if I remember right silver citrate will not react with the stomach acid,
and will remain silver citrate.
only a minority statistically would be using/consuming the shop
bought product.
You might be surprised about that. A health food shop owner told me
recently that colloidal silver is one of his biggest selling products.
That surprised me and him!
Especially at the price they charge. I tried to get them to sell my
brand back when I was making it one time, and they said it was too
inexpensive, they couldn't make enough money off of it.
Marshall
David
From: Neville Munn <[email protected]>
Date: 3 December 2011 4:53:15 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: CS>Re: argyria.
From the vast knowledge base of suitably experienced and well read
individuals or collectives on here regarding the subject of this
silver 'stuff' we produce using LVDC, could someone define what
*actually* constitutes a 'colloidal silver' product? And for
clarification, what voltage would be required in producing such a
product?
From all reputably legitimate literature I've researched over the
years the product produced by LVDC does NOT constitute what is very
loosely termed 'colloidal silver'.
As such, whoever markets a product stating 'colloidal silver' on the
label should also include information relating to the ion/particle
ratio of silver in that product {among other things} because from all
the literature I've ever found, *THAT* is the one and only defining
point which gives rise to the term 'colloidal silver'. From this
information it is not possible to produce a 'colloidal silver'
solution using LVDC.
I have little doubt that by far the majority of EIS users/consumers
in ANY country on this planet would be using/consuming their own LVDC
produced products and only a minority statistically would be
using/consuming the shop bought product. The ion/particle ratio is
the defining point. So the first question I would ask is..."Are
those products produced using LVDC or HVAC?" Of course I'm ignoring
for the moment whatever else may be in those products.
It's not the authorities who are the enemy of the silver
user/consumer, they haven't a clue and don't wanna know, it's the
many and varied marketers out there who are the enemies of the
consumer with their misleading sales blurbs. Consumers should be
more concerned about what's *NOT* printed on the label rather than
what *IS* printed on that label!
N.
> Fr
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