Hi folks,
Thought I'd step in here before things deteriorated. Thanks to the
couple of you who gave me a heads-up on the situation.
D. Glover,
First, I think you've mis-connected two different folks. Neville, with
whom you seem to have a disagreement, is NOT the fellow who mentioned
the meter that he sells. That's Trem Williams, a seasoned member of
the
list and one of the very small handful of manufacturers of CS
generators who has proven over the years to be temperamentally suited
to long-term participation in our group. He shares what he knows
without undue self-promotion, and his input is *always* welcome.
Neville doesn't sell anything as far as I know. He's just a "punter",
as he describes it, like most of us on the list. <grin>
The point he was making is that our interests here tend to gravitate
towards a simpler, home-user approach that does not demand the strict
reproduceability or demanding production standards that hospital use
would. I make my CS on the kitchen table in a quart canning jar, and
it
works just fine, thank you!
I've had to crack the whip over Neville once or twice in the past for
his less-than-diplomatic approach, and this may be the latest occasion
for me to do just that. but I think it could be very valuable to you
to
realize that for the people on this list, in terms of the consensus of
nearly a decade and a half of experience and study, a couple of the
things you have taken to be true are not applicable to the kind of CS
preparation we are talking about here.
Our more technically inclined members have, over time, gravitated
towards a lower current density for production than you're using --
high surface area, low current, longer brew time. The result, i.e.,
what Neville is labelling as "properly made" CS, does NOT require
storage in the dark, appears to NOT be effected by magnets, remains
stable for months and even years (after a couple of days to stabilize
its composition), and has proven for hundreds of users to be perfectly
effective and functional.
And if you inquire, I'm sure one or more of our resident experts will
share their best understanding of exactly what it is that's made by
this process and why it appears to be stable and effective.
Admittedly, given the state of public- and corporate-funded research
in
this world, the CS we make is not anywhere near as well characterized
or it's activitiy as fully understood as we'd all like, but I'm sure
that's a situation with which you are *very* familiar. We have some
pretty good guesses, though, as you will find if you ask.
Neville? Please don't impute motives to Mr. Glover that obviously
don't
apply. He's not selling anything and does not intend to mislead
anybody. And your tone can be enough to get anybody's "back up", so
don't take that as further "proof" of said ulterior motives.
Meanwhile, Mr. Glover, please understand that an important PART of the
mission of this list is to encourage new folks to make and use their
own CS, and that the extra effort you expend in your production
process
would only serve to discourage the average new person from even
attempting it. While I appreciate and respect the virtues of the
generator design you've developed, I'd rather a hundred folks make it
in a jar on the kitchen counter than only one of them surviving to
implement the level of production controls that you have.
Once they've got something that works, they can always improve things
later, right?
As for the list mission, it most certainly includes anything you'd
care
to share with us as to clinical applications and results you've
managed
to facilitate. That kind of experience is priceless, and I wish you
the
best of success in your efforts.
So, can we declare a truce and perhaps initiate a new process of
mining
the brain trust here, for everyone's benefit?
Peace,
Mike D.
Silver List owner
'Should we let this die a natural death now?' You say. Understand
this; (you don't seem to be able to understand this point which I
have
already made) a guy asked about uS readings, and he did not even
refer
to the meter you sell at all, which I never even knew existed
either, so
you have no cause to feel personally vilified in some way by my
advice
to that gentleman concerning TDS meters. Rightly, you should have
written directly to educate firstly that man who asked that
question by
letting him, and everyone else via your communication to him, that
you
produce a different type of meter that you believe can resolve his
problem, then you could have recommended your product to him, if
that is
something that is acceptable on this forum, but that is what you
did in
a devious and thoroughly unpleasant and round about manner anyway
after
you attacked my understanding and methodology of making silver sol,
and
you are trying to sell something here, not me, you are the person
with
commercial products for sale, not me.
The guy asking the question was not even talking about the type of
meter
you were selling anyway, but a TDS meter, and I was right in what I
said
in reply to him, in referring to the poor type of results he would be
likely to get by attempting to measure silver sol ppm with his TDS
meter. You have serious anger management issues because you are one
irrationally and thoroughly misdirected angry man. Who will you
pick on
next that is not even posting about you, or to you, or about your
products? What sort of 'death' were you thinking of, and of what
exactly? I had stopped responding totally to this issue, and here you
are again, drumming up a small army of people that you have grossly
mislead with your whining, so that I am very sadly once more
obliged to
respond to your continued drivel. You are absolutely sickeningly
pathetic in that you have shamelessly manipulated these people. They
really have no idea of the truth of the matter. So far I have been
falsely accused of trying to mislead people into giving up producing
their own silver sol, and more. You have to be seriously nuts to
come up
with rubbish like that, that is just hate filled twisted jealousy.
Your right to 'speak up' extended only to politely offering what you
believe to be a superior and different product to a TDS meter, and to
the gentleman posting that specific question about how to extrapolate
ppm values from uS values.
[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected] ]
[Speaking only for myself... ]
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