Probably though, there is a difference between ionic and colloidal.
I have a few snips from papers, sorry cant give details. In one test
they were observing what happened to silver colloids that were aborbed
in a liposomal cream. silver ended up accumulating between blood
vessels and "stuck" in lysosomes.
In my mind, there is no clear test that shows that silver is not toxic,
even though it appears to be only mildly toxic, but this is a common
theme in medicine, where they continually have to lower the level of a
substance as they find out more, like lead, pesticides, plastics...you
name it.
when I see microphotos of silver particles in tissue, they dont "look"
like they should be there. I continue to use the stuff though. Did
anyone get a feeling of a metallic cold feeling in the extremeties? Im
currently wondering if this is a side effect...
-------
snips;
silver and gold ended up in the kuppfer cells....
reticuloendothelial
system
The phagocytosis of intact liposomes was demonstrated by the appearance
of silver-labelled unilamellar vesicles within the cytoplasm of
undamaged keratinocytes. The labelled liposomes were found enclosed in
cellular unit membranes, i.e. in lysosomes. In addition, perinuclear
disintegration and release of the entrapped marker were observed. Silver
particles, as present in liposomally encapsulated SSD, were found to be
adequate markers for electron microscopy. Our results confirm the
phagocytosis of intact liposomes by keratinocytes in vitro. In addition,
the cytotoxic effects of liposomal (intended for the treatment of burns)
and free SSD on human keratinocytes were studied in detail. Many
keratinocytes treated for 10 min or more were severely affected.
Data from silver suggest that these ions denature proteins (enzymes)
of the target cell or organism by binding to reactive groups resulting
in their precipitation and inactivation. Silver inactivates enzymes by
reacting with the sulfhydryl groups to form silver sulfides. Silver also
reacts with the amino-, carboxyl-, phosphate-, and imidazole-groups and
diminish the activities of lactate dehydrogenase and glutathione
peroxidase. Bacteria (gram+ and gram-) are in general affected by the
oligodynamic effect, but they can develop a heavy-metal resistance, or
in the case of silver a silver-resistance. Virus in general are not very
sensitive. The toxic effect is fully developed often only after a long
time (many hours).
On 4/17/2012 4:38 PM, Alchemysa wrote:
Jared
There is absolutely no credible evidence whatsover for the claim that
ionic silver is better than colloidal or vise versa. All the tests
quoted by the promoters on each side are LAB TESTS IN PETRI DISHES.
It is utterly unbelievable to project such results (achieved in a
small perfectly controlled environment containing just a couple of
ingredients) to what may happen in the infinitely more complicated
chemistry and vastly larger volume of the human body.
In the human body ions may (or may not) work faster, but colloids may
(or may not) hang around and work for longer. Which woud you prefer?
Anyway, ions probably turn into colloids the instant they hit the
bloodstream and particles may be continuously releasing ions! No-one
really knows what is happening.
Theres a mountain of in vitro research proving that just about every
form of silver kills bacteria, from hard, pure silver coatings on
medical appliances, to unstable silver compounds of every
description. And frankly thats about all we really know. All the rest
is just theory.
Sure, swallow the 'hydrosol' (its just another name for colloidal
silver) but don't swallow the sales pitch.
David
From: Jared De la Torriente <[email protected]>
Date: 18 April 2012 12:45:45 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: CS>arthritis and ppm count
ill like to share a point i learned.
My grand ma and mother in law both have chronic fatige and
artritis for some time. both have show pain relieve with
taking ICS, more joint movility so it most be helping since all
their regular medication seem to have stop helping and ther joint
and movility was deteriorating.
an as far as PPM, i done much reasearch and popular believe is now
amongs savy experts that is the IONIC content on the colloid
solution that does wonders for curing not the PPM or silver
particle content, the particle content does have some mild anti
bacterial efffects but its true strengh is the silver ions.
a 5ppm silver colloid is more or less 80% silver colloid particles
and 20% or less ionic silver.
a 5ppm ionic/colloidal silver is more or less 80% ionic and 20%
silver colloid particles.
a 5ppm colloidal silver hidrosol is over 95% ionic and less than 5%
silver colloid particles.
another way of putting you ll need to ingest much less ML of silver
hidrosol at 5ppm, insted of ingesting highe amount ML of a 20+PPM
silver colloid solution to get the same results. a lot much less is
need to regain health.
High 20+PPM silver solution means more silver particles witch may
have to big of a size that can acumulated on the body, leading to a
possible argiria look on the skin and nails. still efective but more
needs to be ingested. lower ppm 5-10PPM ionic or hidrosol are much
better and more efective and much less needed to be ingested to get
results.
i recently fought off salmonelosis in 1.5 days taking power doses of
silver hidrosol home made at 8ppm infuse with 528 hz dna repair and
accelerated healing.
hope this help you guys out.
NAMASTE..
--
The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.
Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org
Unsubscribe:
<mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html
Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]>
List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]>