Ken, 

I'm sure glad you know how to tell the difference, and left all the good
stuff!

And thanks for confirming my figure of a 60% drop in conductivity with your
own measurments of 65%. That shows the problem is real and affects everyone.

Thanks,

Mike Monett

Ode Coyote <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hogwash deleted.

>Ode

>At 06:21 AM 5/7/2012 -0400, you wrote:
>>Ode Coyote <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>> >No meter will measure "PPM", but the numbers are about the same between a
>> >devise that will measure PPM and conductivity readings from a meter that
>> >won't at around 10-12 uS =10-12 PPM.....after the conductivity stops 
>> dropping.
>> >
>> >The relationship slews off each way in both directions from there a little
>> >bit for a good guess and beyond 30 uS, all bets run off into make a wild 
>> guess.
>> >
>> >Ode


>>If you are seeing a significnt conductivity drop after the brew is
>>finished, you have a contamination problem, most likely silver sulfide, or
>>severe leaching from your soda-lime glass. This can easily give 60% drop in
>>conductivity. If you remove the contamination, the conductivity drop should
>>be around 8% or less.
>>
>>The conductivity of a solution is defined as the reciprocal of the
>>resistance of a 1cm cube. The conductivity is directly proportional to the
>>number of charge carriers in the solution. This is a linear function over
>>the entire range of conductivities we use.
>>
>>For example, the Hanna HI 7033 Calibration Solution is 84uS/cm at 25C. This
>>is a single point calibration, meaning all other measurements fit on a
>>straight line down to zero and are a linear function of the conductivity.
>>
>>For silver and hydroxide ions, the relationship between conductivity and
>>ppm is 1uS = 1 ppm, providing you have no contamination.
>>
>>I did a study long ago that shows this. Note the measurements cover the
>>range of 3.3uS to 26uS. Here is the url:
>>
>>http://silvercentral.org/measure/1us2ppm.htm
>>
>>There is no reason to expect any deviation above this value, for example in
>>the SilverCell process that can easily reach 44uS.
>>
>>If your measurements indicate the results above 30uS are a "wild guess",
>>then there is something seriously wrong with your measurements, or you have
>>significant contamination problems, or both.
>>
>>Since you seem to be insensitive to contamination problems, I would guess
>>both.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mike Monett


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