Fred....What is your web address....Bill

Fred wrote:

> This "meter discussion" is getting a little wild! I waited 24 hours,
> to cool down, so here is my "calm" reply!
>
> You have a need to meter "to know what the hell you are drinking"!
>
> Slamming anything but a back yard modified multimeter (which the
> "educated" admit means almost nothing to them) is not a lucid
> discussion or of any benefit to anyone! And since when did science
> become unable to measure the PPM of colloidal silver - did the
> presence of ions, dissolved solids, etc. cease effecting conductivity?
>
> To be technical, PPM is a stupid measure of  "PPM by weight", and
> why so many false claims are not false - it is a measure by weight!
> Drop a dime in your jar and you got 50PPM, no battery, no wires no
> magic - parts by weight! That is why it is important to measure TDS
> (total dissolved solids) - now, don't try to tell me an ion of silver is not
> a solid (not dissolved, but certainly a solid and effects the conductivity)!
> By the way, lets get one thing clear - most of you are not making a
> colloid of silver! Use lousy water and you make compounds of silver!
> These are dissolved, absolutely not  a colloid!!!
>
> Yes, the Hanna TDS-1 and its knockoff are of small technical value!
> But, wouldn't it be nice to dip it in and see if your distilled water is
> really as bad as you can get and all you can make is large molecule
> silver compounds? We do remember that the smallest silver particle
> is the ion and if your water is pure it stays as a free ion in the water -
> the most reactive form of silver, the most bio-available and the most
> stable (like charges repel - they can not join together!).
>
> Sure, if you use a back yard battery project, you may be making silver
> crystals! It is very simple though, if the water is good and you got color,
> you got crystals! If the water is lousy, you get color and compounds of
> silver - no free ions (sob) and no crystals (great) but no potentency
> against most virus (oops)!
>
> That brings up the heated blasts of it "being a ripoff if it costs over
> $40". Well, may God be kind if your health has a value limit of $40!
>
> Some Facts:
> A TDS-1 meter (Hanna or knockoff) has a range of 0-999 PPM
> and an accuracy of +-2% or +-20PPM. Pretty useless  to measure or
> certify 5PPM. They also need a correction for the microseimens/PPM
> conversion, as calibration is usually based on CACO3 with 2us/cm
> equal to 1PPM while colloidal silver uses 1.6us/cm equal to 1PPM.
> (An introduced error of 20%, but if all you make are silver compounds
> it will be pretty close)!
>
> A smarter choice is the pure water tester with a range of 0-99 us/cm
> (0-61PPM) or worse case error of +-2us/cm (1.2PPM). About $50 but
> sadly, that may be a ripoff to most ears out there!
>
> You are a great person because you give away gallons of your sludge??
> Just who are you helping - your saving grace is that any form of silver
> has some benefits. If you wish to be technically correct and accurate you
> must buy the 4 ring potentiometric type for about $140, but then that is
> surely a "ripoff" because it is over $40. Damn the body, save the pennies!
>
> Pissed, Yes! What is the benefit of using a freely provided forum, designed
> to educate and help those interested in their health, if it becomes the soap
> box for hate! I checked the "Hanna knockoff" site and see nothing wrong and
> in fact if their claim of "temperature compensated" refers to the solution
> under
> test, they have the best bargain I have seen this month. I hope they go after
> anyone that tries to slander them!
>
> By the way, I have no relationship with Hanna or their "ripoff?", but I do
> sell a
> colloidal silver generator which is "my ripoff at $295", but it includes a
> built-in
> PPM meter (TDS) and other features no other units have! The funny thing is 
> that
> many customers come back and buy more units - is that a double rippoff?
>
> Cordially, Fred Peschel
>
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