Hi David:

Are you using a biofilm protocol along with silver?  I would use EIS to help 
cut down populations of microbes (just because you don't experience a herx 
reaction, doesn't mean an antimicrobial substance isn't doing some work), and 
use enzymes and di-sodium EDTA to help address microbes that are protected from 
most anti-microbial substances.

Something like this:

https://www.protherainc.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-INTP

...cimbined, perhaps, with additional systemic enzymes.

...also, combining MSM with Vitamin C in increasingly large amounts (to 
tolerance).

Anyone with Lyme or lyme-like pathogenic conditions should be researching more 
comprehensive protocols to address this.

~Jason

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David AuBuchon 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 15:07
  Subject: CS>Making silver colloids from silvernitrate and trisodium citrate


  The reason I am trying to try things like this is because my bugs are not 
dying.  If I take a swig of 1000PPM silver citrate, I get a herx, but I am not 
ready to do that regularly as I am afraid of argyria.  I have also taken a few 
drops of 15,000PPM silver citrate with barely noticeable response.   Other 
things I have thought of doing are drops of super concentrated silver nitrate, 
but there are warnings that it may not be safe to contact tissues at higher 
PPMs, so I am shy about that.  And then also that may turn me blue eventually.  
Silver nitrate can supposedly reach like 2 million PPM at saturation.


  Well, then I suppose another approach is trying super concentrated silver 
colloids.  I feel a little better about that since I have not heard of anyone 
getting argyria from silver colloids, but tell me if I am wrong. Also no one 
has complained about toxicity of lower PPM silver colloid suspensions.  One 
claimed method is using the "reducing agent" from silverlungs:
  http://shop.silverlungs.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=AGENT
  They only recently started selling it separately.  Though I would need a high 
PPM ionic solution in order to convert to colloids in the first place.  I 
suppose I could just see what happens if I mixed it with silver citrate or 
silver nitrate solutions in that case.


  And then there is this method:
  
http://www.ktu.edu/lt/mokslas/zurnalai/medz/medz0-87/03%20Electronic...(pp.287-291).pdf
  Apparently, you can mix silver nitrate and trisodium citrate to make 
colloidal silver.  The method described in the paper would yield approximately 
100PPM colloidal silver assuming it all gets converted.  This begs the question 
if the same process would work for much higher concentrations, perhaps making 
say 1000PPM silver colloids?  


  And also, I was reading some other forum where people were mentioning using 
cinnamon extract to make silver colloids.  Anyone know anything about that? 


  ...


  Trisodium citrate supplier:
  http://www.alfa.com/en/gp100w.pgm?dsstk=36439
  Silver nitrate facts and supplier:
  http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Silver_Nitrate_Solution.htm
  http://www.saltlakemetals.com/Solubility_Of_Silver_Nitrate.htm


  David